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Well it looks like we are getting close enough to take some stabs on what the models are showing around Christmas Eve/Day. So is it going to be flip flop weather, heavy coats and snowy or somewhere inbetween? 

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I was just getting ready to start this topic!
Well, Christmas, at least right now, is looking cool with a cold front passing through on the night of the 23rd. Here's the GFS:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _384.shtml
Well, Christmas, at least right now, is looking cool with a cold front passing through on the night of the 23rd. Here's the GFS:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _384.shtml
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Plotted a meteogram of 2m temps from the 6z GFS. Looks like lows in the mid 30s and highs near 60. Of course, given the typical long-range error in the GFS, I'd add an error range in there of +/= 25 degrees from 384 hrs out. 
We need to wait until the 15th of December before the Euro and Canadian extend out to Christmas.

We need to wait until the 15th of December before the Euro and Canadian extend out to Christmas.
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Well the Euro does show an interesting ULL setup around the 17th

INTERESTINGLY GFS AND ECMWF DIVERGED QUITE A
BIT WITH UPPER LEVEL FEATURES LATE NEXT WEEK. ECMWF INDICATE A
HIGHLY AMPLIFIED UPPER LEVEL TROUGH MOVING OVER REGION FRIDAY.
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Use with extreme caution...weatherguy425 wrote:Well the Euro does show an interesting ULL setup around the 17th![]()
INTERESTINGLY GFS AND ECMWF DIVERGED QUITE A
BIT WITH UPPER LEVEL FEATURES LATE NEXT WEEK. ECMWF INDICATE A
HIGHLY AMPLIFIED UPPER LEVEL TROUGH MOVING OVER REGION FRIDAY.



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Now THAT would be very nice srain.......so make it happen! 

Past Christmas Day weather records.
Houston 1921-1968
Bush Intercontinental Airport 1969-2009
Overall 1921-2009
Temperature
Highs
Average High
61.2
Median High
62
Standard Deviation
10.6
Lows
Average Low
43.3
Median Low
43
Standard Deviation
10.6
Lowest Low
11°F 1983
Highest Low
67°F 1942
Highest High
82°F 1964
Lowest High
28°F 1983
Rainfall
Average Rainfall
0.12
Median
0
Standard Deviation
0.36
Wettest
1.81 1939
Houston WB 1921-1968
Temperature
Highs
Average High
63.2
Median High
64
Standard Deviation
10.7
Lows
Average Low
47.7
Median Low
46.5
Standard Deviation
9.4
Lowest Low
27°F 1924
Highest Low
67°F 1942
Highest High
82°F 1964
Lowest High
37°F 1924
Rainfall
Average Rainfall
0.16
Median
0
Standard Deviation
0.4
Wettest
1.81 1939
Bush Intercontinental Airport 1969-2009
Temperature
Highs
Average High
58.8
Median High
60
Standard Deviation
10.2
Lows
Average Low
38.2
Median Low
37
Standard Deviation
9.7
Lowest Low
11°F 1982
Highest Low
60°F 2008
Highest High
78°F 1987
Lowest High
28°F 1983
Rainfall
Average Rainfall
0.07
Median
0
Standard Deviation
0.29
Wettest
1.64 1982
Houston 1921-1968
Code: Select all
Year High Low Average Rainfall
1921 53 31 42 0
1922 75 51 63 0
1923 59 48 53.5 0
1924 37 27 32 0
1925 59 45 52 T
1926 48 33 40.5 0.28
1927 56 43 49.5 0.01
1928 58 43 50.5 0
1929 69 41 55 0
1930 58 46 52 1.31
1931 70 53 61.5 0
1932 68 50 59 0
1933 74 59 66.5 0
1934 78 64 71 T
1935 57 43 50 T
1936 72 58 65 0
1937 75 61 68 0
1938 51 46 48.5 1.42
1939 45 41 43 1.81
1940 70 54 62 0.48
1941 67 52 59.5 0.46
1942 79 67 73 0
1943 38 35 36.5 0.01
1944 77 65 71 0.29
1945 62 46 54 0
1946 73 50 61.5 0
1947 51 34 42.5 0
1948 64 41 52.5 0
1949 65 46 55.5 T
1950 74 53 63.5 0
1951 75 61 68 0.13
1952 54 42 48 0
1953 55 33 44 0
1954 70 57 63.5 T
1955 79 63 71 0
1956 61 41 51 0
1957 67 53 60 0.32
1958 54 42 48 0.05
1959 63 54 58.5 T
1960 65 47 56 0
1961 63 42 52.5 0
1962 57 48 52.5 0.04
1963 70 45 57.5 0
1964 82 59 70.5 0
1965 57 40 48.5 0
1966 48 40 44 0.13
1967 64 48 56 0
1968 66 48 57 0
Code: Select all
Year High Low Average Rainfall
1969 69 41 55 0
1970 65 39 52 0
1971 73 59 66 0
1972 66 34 50 0
1973 51 45 48 T
1974 51 43 47 0.12
1975 46 35 40.5 T
1976 61 45 53 0.59
1977 59 39 49 0
1978 66 30 48 0
1979 70 33 51.5 0
1980 50 30 40 0
1981 56 33 44.5 0
1982 74 51 62.5 1.64
1983 28 11 19.5 0
1984 64 49 56.5 0.01
1985 45 29 37 0
1986 68 41 54.5 0
1987 78 51 64.5 0.04
1988 65 50 57.5 T
1989 61 20 40.5 0
1990 44 26 35 0
1991 56 37 46.5 0
1992 62 51 56.5 T
1993 64 33 48.5 0
1994 64 34 49 0
1995 60 42 51 0
1996 59 32 45.5 0
1997 59 38 48.5 0
1998 41 31 36 0
1999 58 36 47 0
2000 57 48 52.5 T
2001 54 33 43.5 0
2002 50 32 41 0
2003 61 43 52 T
2004 49 32 40.5 0
2005 69 44 56.5 0
2006 53 39 46 0.01
2007 62 33 47.5 0
2008 74 60 67 0
2009 49 32 40.5 0
Temperature
Highs
Average High
61.2
Median High
62
Standard Deviation
10.6
Lows
Average Low
43.3
Median Low
43
Standard Deviation
10.6
Lowest Low
11°F 1983
Highest Low
67°F 1942
Highest High
82°F 1964
Lowest High
28°F 1983
Rainfall
Average Rainfall
0.12
Median
0
Standard Deviation
0.36
Wettest
1.81 1939
Houston WB 1921-1968
Temperature
Highs
Average High
63.2
Median High
64
Standard Deviation
10.7
Lows
Average Low
47.7
Median Low
46.5
Standard Deviation
9.4
Lowest Low
27°F 1924
Highest Low
67°F 1942
Highest High
82°F 1964
Lowest High
37°F 1924
Rainfall
Average Rainfall
0.16
Median
0
Standard Deviation
0.4
Wettest
1.81 1939
Bush Intercontinental Airport 1969-2009
Temperature
Highs
Average High
58.8
Median High
60
Standard Deviation
10.2
Lows
Average Low
38.2
Median Low
37
Standard Deviation
9.7
Lowest Low
11°F 1982
Highest Low
60°F 2008
Highest High
78°F 1987
Lowest High
28°F 1983
Rainfall
Average Rainfall
0.07
Median
0
Standard Deviation
0.29
Wettest
1.64 1982
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Christmas is looking cold...at least when looking at the 18z. It seems that the gfs has been showing a deep trough deepening through the central plains with a 1042 high dropping down into Montana. The last few runs including 00z and 6z (except 12z) have been pretty similar showing a rather deep trough. Now if we can just get a coastal low...
Christmas Eve:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _348.shtml
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _360.shtml
Christmas Day:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _372.shtml
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _384.shtml

Christmas Eve:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _348.shtml
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _360.shtml
Christmas Day:
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _372.shtml
http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _384.shtml
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+PNA Ridge popping up as well.Candy Cane wrote:Christmas is looking cold...at least when looking at the 18z. It seems that the gfs has been showing a deep trough deepening through the central plains with a 1042 high dropping down into Montana. The last few runs have been pretty similar showing a rather deep trough. Now if we can just get a coastal low...![]()


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12Z Euro is MUCH weaker with the front around the 18th-19th and the low center is way up north. Even the Euro is flipping all over the place in the past few runs. I'd be VERY cautious making a forecast beyond the next 2-3 days using any model. That said, the 12Z GFS forecasts a low in the upper 30s on Christmas. Probably with a high in the 50s. Again, take those temps as being accurate to within about 20 degrees either way this far out. I see no indication of any chance of freezing/frozen precip prior to Christmas. Just pretty much weather as we've experienced for the past month. Cool and dry.
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wxman57 wrote:12Z Euro is MUCH weaker with the front around the 18th-19th and the low center is way up north. Even the Euro is flipping all over the place in the past few runs. I'd be VERY cautious making a forecast beyond the next 2-3 days using any model. That said, the 12Z GFS forecasts a low in the upper 30s on Christmas. Probably with a high in the 50s. Again, take those temps as being accurate to within about 20 degrees either way this far out. I see no indication of any chance of freezing/frozen precip prior to Christmas. Just pretty much weather as we've experienced for the past month. Cool and dry.
Oh, I see. So we could see lows in the teens to highs in the 70's.

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00z GFS has the cold needed for winter fun at Christmas, but not the moisture.
Could this be a repeat of 2004? A few wacky runs of snowfall end up proving true 15 days later?
Twice in our lifetime, probably not. Time will tell.
Could this be a repeat of 2004? A few wacky runs of snowfall end up proving true 15 days later?
Twice in our lifetime, probably not. Time will tell.
Thanks for starting this topic, redneck. We can talk about upcoming SE Texas weather here. The topic I was following previously somehow became "east coast freeze".redneckweather wrote:Well it looks like we are getting close enough to take some stabs on what the models are showing around Christmas Eve/Day. So is it going to be flip flop weather, heavy coats and snowy or somewhere inbetween?

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12Z GFS forecasts a low in the upper 40s and a high in the low-mid 60s on Christmas day with clouds and onshore flow. No freezing temps indicated between the 18th and 26th. Again, the standard GFS long-range caveat of the temperature error being +/- about 20 degrees.
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It seems our December Topic was hijacked, but that's OK.Kludge wrote:Thanks for starting this topic, redneck. We can talk about upcoming SE Texas weather here. The topic I was following previously somehow became "east coast freeze".redneckweather wrote:Well it looks like we are getting close enough to take some stabs on what the models are showing around Christmas Eve/Day. So is it going to be flip flop weather, heavy coats and snowy or somewhere inbetween?

AO near record negative levels (Blocking pattern)...

NAO remaining negative to near neutral...

PNA rising from negative to slightly positive (suggests ridging building in the NE Pacific)...

00ZGFS 12/11/2010 Long Range...(Pacific View(500mb) CONUS View (850mb))
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Here is a scatter plots I made for AO, NAO, and PNA.
AO and Rainfall

Not much of a corrleation between AO and rain.
AO and Temperature

There is a correlation between AO and temperature. The more negative AO is, the cooler it is.
NAO and Rainfall

Not much of a corrleation between AO and rain.
NAO and Temperature

There is a correlation between NAO and temperature. The more negative NAO is, the cooler it is.
PNA and Rainfall

Some correlation with PNA and rain, which is a positive correlation.
PNA and Temperature

The more positive PNA is, the cooler it is.
AO and Rainfall

Not much of a corrleation between AO and rain.
AO and Temperature

There is a correlation between AO and temperature. The more negative AO is, the cooler it is.
NAO and Rainfall

Not much of a corrleation between AO and rain.
NAO and Temperature

There is a correlation between NAO and temperature. The more negative NAO is, the cooler it is.
PNA and Rainfall

Some correlation with PNA and rain, which is a positive correlation.
PNA and Temperature

The more positive PNA is, the cooler it is.
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I have to agree. The unusually high heights seen across Canada in response to the -AO are wreaking havoc on the guidance. The HPC is siding with the Euro for now in the medium range toward next weekend.wxman57 wrote:I'm seeing such tremendous model fluctuations from run to run that it's impossible to have much confidence in the weather beyond the next 3-4 days.


Day ten Euro...
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Anything of interest with the latest Euro run in either the medium or long term?
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