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Re: November 2020
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:31 pm
by TXWeatherMan
tropiKal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:28 pm
Just give it a decade or two - mangroves will forest the Texas coast, and Houston will be struggling to dip below 55 in winter.
The mangrove part sounds good, but not dipping below 55 in the winter doesn’t sound that great lol.
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:39 pm
by DoctorMu
TXWeatherMan wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:31 pm
tropiKal wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 6:28 pm
Just give it a decade or two - mangroves will forest the Texas coast, and Houston will be struggling to dip below 55 in winter.
The mangrove part sounds good, but not dipping below 55 in the winter doesn’t sound that great lol.
Averages may slowly climb, although cc effects are less in TX than say ND...but we're going to get occasional sub-freezing dips, because of the Great Plains - very little to stop shallow cold air.
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:11 pm
by srainhoutx
There will never be mangrove in Texas...period.
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:42 pm
by jasons2k
srainhoutx wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:11 pm
There will never be mangrove in Texas...period.
They have been creeping up the coast for decades. They’re very prevalent near Port Aransas now - I’ve seen it myself - and some stands are even getting established near Galveston.
https://uh.edu/mangrove/
Models predict that an increase in winter minimum temperatures of 2-4° C may lead to black mangroves replacing salt marsh on 100% of the Texas coast and 95% of the Louisiana coast (Osland et al. 2013).
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:43 pm
by TXWeatherMan
srainhoutx wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:11 pm
There will never be mangrove in Texas...period.
I don’t think so either, but it would be good for fishing
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:50 pm
by kyzsl51
Wtf is mangrove??
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 9:43 pm
by TXWeatherMan
kyzsl51 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:50 pm
Wtf is mangrove??
A plant that grows along the coast and bays, mainly in south Florida and very tropical places.
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:54 pm
by snowman65
how did y'all like our winter this year?
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:00 am
by redneckweather
snowman65 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:54 pm
how did y'all like our winter this year?
Typical La Nina but I think we all will be in for a wintry surprise or two this winter which isn't here yet. I'm not too fond of El Nino winters down here. They typically give us cold (not cold enough for wintry precip) and wet weather which gets in the bones. Those deep Canadian fronts just don't penetrate far enough south in El Nino winters to give us a good shot of cold air for wintry precip, at least it seems that way to me.
I'm liking our chances this winter where fronts can't penetrate deep into the south. All we will need is some moisture to work with.
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:31 am
by jasons2k
This photo is from a fishing trip I took down in Port A back in 2015. That’s mangrove. I don’t have more pictures but in other places, there were massive groves of mangroves that had overtaken a lot of the old fishing camps.
By the way the fishing is great by the mangroves. And they filter the water, too.
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:39 am
by Cpv17
redneckweather wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:00 am
snowman65 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:54 pm
how did y'all like our winter this year?
Typical La Nina but I think we all will be in for a wintry surprise or two this winter which isn't here yet. I'm not too fond of El Nino winters down here. They typically give us cold (not cold enough for wintry precip) and wet weather which gets in the bones. Those deep Canadian fronts just don't penetrate far enough south in El Nino winters to give us a good shot of cold air for wintry precip, at least it seems that way to me.
I'm liking our chances this winter where fronts can't penetrate deep into the south. All we will need is some moisture to work with.
La Niña’s can produce major artic outbreaks than El Niño’s can’t. I’m sure most of y’all know that but there’s always a chance for that when having a La Niña.
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:09 pm
by jasons2k
Yeah, saying winter is already over is like saying “season cancelled” in July when there is a lull in tropical activity.
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 12:09 pm
by Ptarmigan
Cpv17 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 11:39 am
redneckweather wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:00 am
snowman65 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:54 pm
how did y'all like our winter this year?
Typical La Nina but I think we all will be in for a wintry surprise or two this winter which isn't here yet. I'm not too fond of El Nino winters down here. They typically give us cold (not cold enough for wintry precip) and wet weather which gets in the bones. Those deep Canadian fronts just don't penetrate far enough south in El Nino winters to give us a good shot of cold air for wintry precip, at least it seems that way to me.
I'm liking our chances this winter where fronts can't penetrate deep into the south. All we will need is some moisture to work with.
La Niña’s can produce major artic outbreaks than El Niño’s can’t. I’m sure most of y’all know that but there’s always a chance for that when having a La Niña.
Some of the longest freezes occurred in La Nina winter like in January/February 1951 and February 1989. February 1895 and February 1899 occurred in La Nina winter.
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:41 pm
by Cromagnum
When is the next chance for any meaningful rain? I dont think I've seen any at my house since September.
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:21 pm
by Cpv17
Cromagnum wrote: ↑Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:41 pm
When is the next chance for any meaningful rain? I dont think I've seen any at my house since September.
I’m not sure but I can tell you the next two weeks look pretty dry so maybe sometime after that but I doubt it. Like I said a while back, I think we’re about to be in a drought.
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:11 pm
by tropiKal
It's true that previous La Nina's have brought wintry events. But by and large, they literally have to thread the needle - upper level support largely is north away from SE Texas during such winters. Even the subtropical jet would barely have an effect.
So it's going to be pure wall-to-wall heat and sunshine during this winter, souped up with the heating planet. Because subtropical highs are displaced northward in La Nina's, things will eventually become solidly wetter during summer (see: 2012).
Re: November 2020
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:52 pm
by Cromagnum
What is ETA doing now?
Re: November 2020
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:59 am
by snowman65
you know things are extremely dull when there aren't any posts in here for 4 days....in mid November lol
Re: November 2020
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:42 am
by Cromagnum
snowman65 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 11, 2020 6:59 am
you know things are extremely dull when there aren't any posts in here for 4 days....in mid November lol
Hot and humid with zero rain for the next week. Of course nobody is posting.
Re: November 2020
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 11:50 am
by jasons2k
ETA is the only thing worth watching. The forecast was one of the biggest busts I’ve seen. My relatives down on the Fl West Coast have been put through an emotional shredder this week.
