February 1-5, 2011 Arctic Blast/Winter Storm Discussion
- srainhoutx
- Site Admin
- Posts: 19685
- Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:32 pm
- Location: Maggie Valley, NC
- Contact:
By hour 132, the GFS suggests moisture across TX, but has the cold air lagging. Not a likely solution with a 1040+ high pressure near NE, IMO. We know that the models under estimate shallow cold air masses and how quickly they tend to move S. The short wave becomes elongated to our W and drops a lot of light precip across most of TX...
Carla/Alicia/Jerry(In The Eye)/Michelle/Charley/Ivan/Dennis/Katrina/Rita/Wilma/Humberto/Ike/Harvey
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
- cristina99
- Posts: 125
- Joined: Fri Jan 21, 2011 2:33 pm
- Location: The Woodlands / Spring / Conroe
- Contact:
I love cold weather!! Yea!!! Snow day!!! I wish I could bottle this up and take it out in August.
- srainhoutx
- Site Admin
- Posts: 19685
- Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:32 pm
- Location: Maggie Valley, NC
- Contact:
The 12Z GFS suggests the cold air will be around through next Friday, for what it's worth.
Carla/Alicia/Jerry(In The Eye)/Michelle/Charley/Ivan/Dennis/Katrina/Rita/Wilma/Humberto/Ike/Harvey
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
Srain, I don't mean to be a pain here, but what does this latest GFS run mean for my area? (New Orleans)
- srainhoutx
- Site Admin
- Posts: 19685
- Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:32 pm
- Location: Maggie Valley, NC
- Contact:
We are colder here in TX via the GFS. We need to give this a day or two to settle down in model world regarding the finer details. I suggest our Louisiana neighbors pay close attention as well.harpman wrote:Srain, I don't mean to be a pain here, but what does this latest GFS run mean for my area? (New Orleans)
Carla/Alicia/Jerry(In The Eye)/Michelle/Charley/Ivan/Dennis/Katrina/Rita/Wilma/Humberto/Ike/Harvey
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
Thanks. The reason I ask is because what you guys get in Houston, we usually get a day later here, especially with winter weather.
-
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3497
- Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:46 pm
- Location: North-West Houston
- Contact:
The cold air doesn't sink nearly as far south as it should have with the 1040+ ridge. Gfs continues to have problems.srainhoutx wrote:We are colder here in TX via the GFS. We need to give this a day or two to settle down in model world regarding the finer details. I suggest our Louisiana neighbors pay close attention as well.harpman wrote:Srain, I don't mean to be a pain here, but what does this latest GFS run mean for my area? (New Orleans)
For Your Infinite Source For All Things Weather Visit Our Facebook
- srainhoutx
- Site Admin
- Posts: 19685
- Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:32 pm
- Location: Maggie Valley, NC
- Contact:
Another interesting thing concerning the GFS. That model suggests the NW flow will remain in place for some time (Feb 9th +/- a couple of days).
Carla/Alicia/Jerry(In The Eye)/Michelle/Charley/Ivan/Dennis/Katrina/Rita/Wilma/Humberto/Ike/Harvey
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
- srainhoutx
- Site Admin
- Posts: 19685
- Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:32 pm
- Location: Maggie Valley, NC
- Contact:
Early indications from the 12Z Canadian (GEM) suggests a very chilly air mass will settle deep into TX...
Carla/Alicia/Jerry(In The Eye)/Michelle/Charley/Ivan/Dennis/Katrina/Rita/Wilma/Humberto/Ike/Harvey
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
-
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3497
- Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:46 pm
- Location: North-West Houston
- Contact:
srainhoutx wrote:Early indications from the 12Z Canadian (GEM) suggests a very chilly air mass will settle deep into TX...
Interesting to note the low in mexico
For Your Infinite Source For All Things Weather Visit Our Facebook
-
- Pro Met
- Posts: 830
- Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:45 pm
- Location: Atlanta, Georgia
- Contact:
Dang, -20 isotherm all the way down to OKC!
- srainhoutx
- Site Admin
- Posts: 19685
- Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:32 pm
- Location: Maggie Valley, NC
- Contact:
Look at 168. Yikes!weatherguy425 wrote:Dang, -20 isotherm all the way down to OKC!
Carla/Alicia/Jerry(In The Eye)/Michelle/Charley/Ivan/Dennis/Katrina/Rita/Wilma/Humberto/Ike/Harvey
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
-
- Pro Met
- Posts: 830
- Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:45 pm
- Location: Atlanta, Georgia
- Contact:
Wouldn't that normally equate to surface temps in like, the lowers teens?
- wxman57
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 2621
- Joined: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:34 am
- Location: Southwest Houston (Westbury)
- Contact:
One thing to note is that temps in western Canada have warmed considerably in the past 2 weeks. Most temps in central to southern BC and Alberta are into the 20s, 30s and even 40s currently. There is some cold air in northern BC and Alberta (-5 to -20F), and it is moving south as the high pressure builds.
I plotted a 12Z GFS meteogram and it has all precip ending here before 6pm Tuesday with temps in the 50s and 60s during the rain. Of course, all that depends on the position of the front. I do think that the front will be farther south than the GFS is forecasting next Tuesday. With energy hanging back, there could well be wintry precip across central and north Texas into Oklahoma. Wouldn't rule out anything here, there are just too many uncertainties.
Here's the meteogram from the 12Z GFS. It's just forecasting upper 20s for the coldest day (Friday). Again, I'm not inclined to believe the GFS temps yet:

I plotted a 12Z GFS meteogram and it has all precip ending here before 6pm Tuesday with temps in the 50s and 60s during the rain. Of course, all that depends on the position of the front. I do think that the front will be farther south than the GFS is forecasting next Tuesday. With energy hanging back, there could well be wintry precip across central and north Texas into Oklahoma. Wouldn't rule out anything here, there are just too many uncertainties.
Here's the meteogram from the 12Z GFS. It's just forecasting upper 20s for the coldest day (Friday). Again, I'm not inclined to believe the GFS temps yet:

-
- Pro Met
- Posts: 830
- Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:45 pm
- Location: Atlanta, Georgia
- Contact:
Where exactly will the source region be? It seems like over the past few days some of the runs have almost given a "back door" kind of appearence from northEASTERN Canada, is this just associated with the "hudson bay vortex"?One thing to note is that temps in western Canada have warmed considerably in the past 2 weeks. Most temps in central to southern BC and Alberta are into the 20s, 30s and even 40s currently. There is some cold air in northern BC and Alberta (-5 to -20F), and it is moving south as the high pressure builds.
Come on don't leave us hanging - what does 168 hour show????srainhoutx wrote:Look at 168. Yikes!weatherguy425 wrote:Dang, -20 isotherm all the way down to OKC!
-
- Site Admin
- Posts: 3497
- Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:46 pm
- Location: North-West Houston
- Contact:
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~gadomski/CMC_ ... ml#pictureticka1 wrote:Come on don't leave us hanging - what does 168 hour show????srainhoutx wrote:Look at 168. Yikes!weatherguy425 wrote:Dang, -20 isotherm all the way down to OKC!
For Your Infinite Source For All Things Weather Visit Our Facebook
- srainhoutx
- Site Admin
- Posts: 19685
- Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:32 pm
- Location: Maggie Valley, NC
- Contact:
I posted it in the Canadian output comment, but here it is again...ticka1 wrote:Come on don't leave us hanging - what does 168 hour show????srainhoutx wrote:Look at 168. Yikes!weatherguy425 wrote:Dang, -20 isotherm all the way down to OKC!
Carla/Alicia/Jerry(In The Eye)/Michelle/Charley/Ivan/Dennis/Katrina/Rita/Wilma/Humberto/Ike/Harvey
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
-
- Posts: 651
- Joined: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:33 pm
- Contact:
That is only one run though, yes?srainhoutx wrote:Look at 168. Yikes!weatherguy425 wrote:Dang, -20 isotherm all the way down to OKC!
- srainhoutx
- Site Admin
- Posts: 19685
- Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:32 pm
- Location: Maggie Valley, NC
- Contact:
Early indications concerning the 12Z Euro suggest a suppressed Southern Storm. More in a bit. 

Carla/Alicia/Jerry(In The Eye)/Michelle/Charley/Ivan/Dennis/Katrina/Rita/Wilma/Humberto/Ike/Harvey
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity
Member: National Weather Association
Facebook.com/Weather Infinity
Twitter @WeatherInfinity