January 2025

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I was afraid of this happening. When I noticed yesterday that the models were trending warmer for us with less snow, I had a feeling it would be the beginning of a bad trend.
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hopefully today they come back to their senses
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A tale of two cities..
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The 6z GFS only has a light freeze Monday morning lol the rest of the week is above freezing. Geez. Still time to trend back, but damn that’s not good considering it’s in the 5 day window.
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Ya, it's just not looking good. I'm beginning to think this "Siberian" air is just hype at this point. seems like its just your run of the mill artic air at this point. my forecast highs for Tuesday started out at 36..then 38..now its 40 ughhhh
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I do believe the GFS is too warm though. I highly doubt we only see upper 20’s to low 30’s. That would barely be as strong as last weeks front.
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Brazoriatx979 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:47 am Ya, it's just not looking good. I'm beginning to think this "Siberian" air is just hype at this point. seems like its just your run of the mill artic air at this point. my forecast highs for Tuesday started out at 36..then 38..now its 40 ughhhh
I wouldn’t even call it an Artic front if the GFS temps verified. Maybe a Canadian front at best.
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if this doesn't reverse course by Friday or Saturday then you might as well say it's over
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Truth be told if our set up was for freezing rain and sleet instead of snow i hope the trend continues and hope for a better set up later.
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Hah, figures. We're more likely to get surprise wintry weather than to have any models sniff something out ahead of time. It ALWAYS changes out of our favor.
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Hell at this point id be shocked if they even issued a cold weather advisory
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From Jeff

1-16-25

Arctic air mass will arrive into SE TX late this weekend.

Preparations for an extended period of cold weather should be completed this weekend.

Winter precipitation is possible early to mid next week.

Cold air mass over northern Russia and Siberia will move across the north pole and into northern Canada over the next few days before dropping quickly southward down the plains under the influence of a large sprawling 1040-1050mb surface high pressure dome. The overall setup is a fairly classic arctic air dump into the southern plains and Texas…but as usual the fine details of how cold, for how long, and will there be any precipitation, what kind, and how much are the usual challenges with such events. There has not been much change in the thinking in the last 24 hours and the global model guidance has not shown much change on the temperatures...maybe a few degrees warmer. We will start to get into the high resolution guidance over the next few days which will help better resolve the intensity of the incoming air mass so until then there will likely not be any significant changes to the temperature forecasts.

Initial cold front will move through on Saturday with a chance of showers (mostly east of I-45) and then gusty northerly winds and falling temperatures into the afternoon and evening hours. Temperatures Sunday AM fall into the 30’s for much of the area, but above freezing for nearly all for the metro area…wind chills will be cold however in the 20’s and 30’s. True arctic air mass arrives late Sunday into early Monday with temperatures falling below freezing for much of the area Monday AM being driven by gusty northerly winds and strong cold air advection. Wind chill values on Monday morning likely in the 10’s and 20’s with a “cold weather advisory” likely required for much of the area. Temperatures going forward on Monday into Tuesday will be somewhat dependent on the amount of cloud cover and any precipitation over the area. Looks like clouds will build in from the southwest through the day on Monday which will slow heating along with continued cold air advection into the area. Highs in the upper 30’s to low 40’s currently in the forecast, but this may need to be lowered some if clouds come in faster than expected. Much if not all of the area will fall below freezing again Monday night into Tuesday morning and this is where things begin to get a little tricky as the potential for precipitation develops and this could keep highs on Tuesday very cold (near freezing for much of the area). For now, will go along with the blend of guidance and have highs in the mid/upper 30’s but would not be surprised to see these numbers lowered depending on the amount of clouds and precipitation.

While it will be cold…there is nothing currently to suggest this will be anywhere close to the intensity of the cold nor the duration of the Feb 2021 event!

Monday AM Forecasted Low Temperatures:

North of HWY 105: 23-26
North of I-10: 27-30
Houston metro (inside Beltway): 28-30
Coastal Counties: 29-31
Beaches/Galveston: 32-34

Winter Precipitation:

Just when the global guidance was starting to come into better agreement on the potential for winter precipitation yesterday it has all fallen apart overnight with widely varying solutions from little to no precipitation at all to a cold rain to ice/snow. An upper air disturbance will move toward Texas in the Mon-Tues time period with a coastal low forming off the lower TX coast likely on Monday. This setup is not all that different from the coastal low event last week, except is looks about 5-8 degrees colder which introduces the potential for a winter mix of precipitation types over the region. The position of the coastal low along with the available moisture will be the key on what we can expect early to mid next week. Thermal profiles between models are not in any better agreement which would help to determine the P-type…and while the blend of models has slightly increased the chances of precipitation early next week there is little confidence in how this may play out, what may be the dominant type of precipitation and any accumulations. Will have to see how future trends go and await the higher resolution guidance over the weekend to see if a better picture evolves on how things will come together early next week.

Preparations:
Proper winterization preparations will be needed for this cold air outbreak and will need to be completed by this weekend.

Protect sensitive vegetation.

Protect any exposed outdoor pipes (sprinkler systems should be shut off and properly drained).

Prepare proper shelter and warmth for animals and livestock and make sure water sources do not freeze over.

Persons should limit outside exposure to a minimum.
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Just saw this. Maybe a good reference...
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snowman65 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:35 am Just saw this. Maybe a good reference...


Thank you for this. I caution all of those folks who are living on the edge of each model run. LOL. I think the good Captain, Jason and I all commented that we really wont know anything specific until the weekend. I posited the fact that Sunday evening might be when we really know what is going on. Models will continue to flip flop back and forth. My three cents this morning.
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Hard to stay positive currently after being happier yesterday. 6z EC is dry now. This feels like that Texans KC game from a few years ago where the Texans were up big then KC came back and took it all away then some. This is a big Ouch after just one day and night of model runs later. As cpv17 posted earlier, it has barely a freeze now which is no different from what we have been having. Might as well be sunny if it is cool out.
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each model is struggling with the short waves coming into the state. each one is different. probably won't know till this weekend
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TexasBreeze wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:56 am Hard to stay positive currently after being happier yesterday. 6z EC is dry now. This feels like that Texans KC game from a few years ago where the Texans were up big then KC came back and took it all away then some. This is a big Ouch after just one day and night of model runs later. As cpv17 posted earlier, it has barely a freeze now which is no different from what we have been having. Might as well be sunny if it is cool out.
You know, we runners have a saying, " You are only as good as your last run". Many folks ( not you) take that attitude with model runs. LOL
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tireman4 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:09 am
TexasBreeze wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:56 am Hard to stay positive currently after being happier yesterday. 6z EC is dry now. This feels like that Texans KC game from a few years ago where the Texans were up big then KC came back and took it all away then some. This is a big Ouch after just one day and night of model runs later. As cpv17 posted earlier, it has barely a freeze now which is no different from what we have been having. Might as well be sunny if it is cool out.
You know, we runners have a saying, " You are only as good as your last run". Many folks ( not you) take that attitude with model runs. LOL
Heck, even Herzog was for the most part buying into it himself. And he’s a good met!
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Honey, dig out the utensils. Give me a knife, too. I have a "siberian" to kill.
The toilet bowl is full too. It's not going to flush this entire winter.

What was that? Why, do we hear negativity in the voices of the arch angels? Say it ain't so, Dorothy. You mean I have to click my heels and move to Kansas to be weather wooky? Nooooooooo
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From Joe Bastardi on Twitter:

While brutal cold invades, models backing down on major snow and ice in the south Do not trust it as yesterday they tried to kill DC snow (GFS never had it) and did not bite on that
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