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Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:29 pm
by Andrew
sambucol wrote:If we get the cold front through here, will that mean we are not likely for any tropical development to head our way?

More or less yes. If it isn't too late or early it should protect us.

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:45 pm
by sambucol
Andrew wrote:
sambucol wrote:If we get the cold front through here, will that mean we are not likely for any tropical development to head our way?

More or less yes. If it isn't too late or early it should protect us.
Reminds me of Ike when the cold front was supposed to keep it away from us. But we know the rest of that story.

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 5:47 pm
by srainhoutx
Here is the problem with the EC and GFS. A totally different Upper Air Patter is depicted by each...

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:18 pm
by srainhoutx
Sunset on PGI46L...

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:54 pm
by biggerbyte
Wow! That far out and it is all pure speculation. Does lend the possibility to the conversation. First we have to get a system to form at all. Next, what will the conditions be at the time it does. Too many possible variables at this point to make a west gulf, or north/ne gulf call. I'd be careful to put all my apples in either basket for a few more days.

Also, it looks like we could be active until mid October this year.

Keep a wise eye to the sky, newbies. The fun may begin in just a few days.

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:01 pm
by Andrew
srainhoutx wrote:Here is the problem with the EC and GFS. A totally different Upper Air Patter is depicted by each...
Yea the Euro shows a dominating ridge while the gfs shows an early fall pattern.

Where do you get these awesome pictures srain?

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:05 pm
by srainhoutx
Andrew wrote:
srainhoutx wrote:Here is the problem with the EC and GFS. A totally different Upper Air Patter is depicted by each...
Yea the Euro shows a dominating ridge while the gfs shows an early fall pattern.

Where do you get these awesome pictures srain?
Oh, I had help through the years... ;)

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:09 pm
by Ptarmigan
I wonder why PGI46L is not tagged as an Invest? Here is a 324 Hour GFS model and it has a monster hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico. Looks larger than Gilbert! :shock: :o If named, it would be Matthew.

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Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:50 pm
by srainhoutx
Microwave pass caught some of 46...

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:36 pm
by biggerbyte
We may get a cool front through here over a Sunday/Monday timeframe. That would be out of the area long before a system in the Gulf gets cranking. We will need another front, or a strong trough digging down just at the right time to be completely safe. Maybe... Maybe not. That graphic looks scary.

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:47 pm
by Ptarmigan
biggerbyte wrote:We may get a cool front through here over a Sunday/Monday timeframe. That would be out of the area long before a system in the Gulf gets cranking. We will need another front, or a strong trough digging down just at the right time to be completely safe. Maybe... Maybe not. That graphic looks scary.
Sometimes, a tropical cyclone can get a cool front to pass, like Ike did in 2008. Also, if a front passed by and stalled out over the Gulf of Mexico. A low pressure system may form and become a hurricane, like Alicia in 1983.

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:02 pm
by Andrew
GFS 42h:

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Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:20 pm
by Andrew
108h:

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Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:38 pm
by Andrew
No way this run verifies. I have no clue what is up with the GFS:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:21 am
by djjordan
NHC has put a Code Yellow up for the islands in the Carribean regarding the system we all are tracking. Good Morning Forum ......


. DISORGANIZED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS IN THE VICINITY OF THE
WINDWARD ISLANDS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE. ENVIRONMENTAL
CONDITIONS APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR SOME SLOW DEVELOPMENT DURING THE
NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT MOVES WESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH. THERE IS
A LOW CHANCE...10 PERCENT...OF THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL
CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:46 am
by srainhoutx
00Z Euro..and GGEM (Canadian)...
09212010 00Z Euro 240 hours00zeurotropical500mbSLP240.gif
09212010 00Z GGEM 240 00zggem500mbHGHTPMSLtropical240.gif

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:02 am
by srainhoutx
00Z EC and GFS have some agreement regarding the Upper Air Pattern...

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:06 am
by srainhoutx
Up to 20%...

SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER MUCH OF THE WINDWARD ISLANDS AND THE
SOUTHEASTERN CARIBBEAN SEA ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE.
ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS APPEAR CONDUCIVE FOR SOME GRADUAL
DEVELOPMENT DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS AS THE DISTURBANCE MOVES
WESTWARD AT 10 TO 15 MPH. THERE IS A LOW CHANCE...20 PERCENT...OF
THIS SYSTEM BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48 HOURS.


Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:35 am
by srainhoutx
Beginning to get a curved look. 95L may not be too far off in the distance...

Re: Caribbean/Gulf Development Next Week?

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:56 am
by srainhoutx
HWRF 06Z for 96E caught what may be our NW Caribbean system...