July 2022

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Gainesville worked for us. Dry in the winter, Sunny. Occasional cool temps. Palmettos, pine trees, live oaks were a good combination having grown up in eastern NC. The soil was sandy loam, so it was less muddy with fewer mosquitoes. Lower dewpoint than Tampa or South Florida. In the summer it rained nearly everyday between 2 and 4 pm, with a cool evening breeze after the storm. We only needed sprinklers occasionally during the winter.. No worries re: gardening and plants.
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user:null wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:51 am
davidiowx wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 10:50 am You can use this and filter by division, region, etc. by month or year showing the temp or precip avg compared to climate avg.

https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/monito ... alpcpnrank

It’s pretty cool. 2011 and 2012 aren’t good for TX, obviously.
2012 was much better than 2011 as far as Houston's rainfall during summer. Yet not even 2011 was as bad as this year regarding June's rainfall.

That said, the year 2005 was actually similarly as dry as this year (and that June at Hobby was drier than even 2011) — but there was a remarkable turn around going into July, August, and September. So, here's hoping we pull a turnaround, such that 2022 ends up more like 2005 and 2012 rather than a 2011 repeat.
July 2012 had heavy rain and flooding. Same goes with July 2005.

Summer 2011 is an outlier from a statistical standpoint.
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2012 was still bad in CLL. May - July were the 4th hottest ever. Below normal rainfall. 2011-2012 were tree killers up here.

May, June 2022. Hottest ever.

In contrast Feb - July 2021. One of the coolest 6 mo periods.
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Did you know that Progreso, right on the northern Yucatan peninsula, only averages ~16 inches of rainfall annually?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progreso, ... 1n#Climate
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Ptarmigan wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:51 pmJuly 2012 had heavy rain and flooding. Same goes with July 2005.

Summer 2011 is an outlier from a statistical standpoint.
True. Here's hoping that 2011 stays an outlier, and that this summer turns around more like 2005 and 2012 🥰
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DoctorMu wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 6:30 pm Gainesville worked for us. Dry in the winter, Sunny. Occasional cool temps. Palmettos, pine trees, live oaks were a good combination having grown up in eastern NC. The soil was sandy loam, so it was less muddy with fewer mosquitoes. Lower dewpoint than Tampa or South Florida. In the summer it rained nearly everyday between 2 and 4 pm, with a cool evening breeze after the storm. We only needed sprinklers occasionally during the winter.. No worries re: gardening and plants.
Gainesville is a beautiful place with an amazing climate, no doubt about that. I’d trade that for our climate in a heartbeat!!
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Walked around my yard and the parts that were stressed are dead to the ground now. Parts that were a touch stronger are recovering. Gonna be a lot of weeds to contend with. One of my neighbors didn't water for two months and his entire front yard is solid brown. Amazed the HOA didn't eviscerate him.
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July has only started and I cant wait for it to be over already, ensembles look extremely brutal for any rain in the next 2+ weeks, this pattern sucks
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As you say that, we have a brief shower in Humble
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Cromagnum wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:18 pm Walked around my yard and the parts that were stressed are dead to the ground now. Parts that were a touch stronger are recovering. Gonna be a lot of weeds to contend with. One of my neighbors didn't water for two months and his entire front yard is solid brown. Amazed the HOA didn't eviscerate him.
If the recovery was just from the small half-inch that you had on Saturday, then it truly goes to show you how important the summer storms are.
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jasons2k wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 11:55 pmGainesville is a beautiful place with an amazing climate, no doubt about that. I’d trade that for our climate in a heartbeat!!
My only problem with Gainsville goes back to the issue you mentioned, regarding the "frost line." It still is USDA hardiness 9A just like Houston, so won't have the coconuts like zone 10+. Nor deeper equatorial plants like zone 11 and 12.

But I definitely agree to choosing Gainsville over here, if a 2011 drought repeat does verify — but if summer here turns around with rainfall, then there will be more fence sitting.

As for the palmettos @DoctorMu mentioned, those are the only species of tall palms that would have been bulletproof through the Feb 2021 freeze event. Or at least just cosmetic foliage damage. Not only the carolina palmettos that occur in FL/SE US, but also the mexicana that occurs in the RGV.

Of the tall exotics, dates (both canary and true dates) seem to have fared better than washingtonia robusta from what I see. Interesting considering the latter is often the most used palm for landscaping in the Houston area. Not sure about pindos, Med fan palms, etc regarding their max height.
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All of the Phoenix dactylifera at Portofino in Shenandoah got completely decimated last year. Every single one - gone. The mexican fan palms were hit or miss, but most up here lived. Queens were wiped out. Pindos and mule palms did fine. Most canaries are fine but a small few of them got knocked out - probably the sickly ones.

Surprisingly, it was about the same up here as it was down into south Houston. It was that wind that evened it out.
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To keep in the archives:

The Woodlands Township has announced that the fireworks show at Rob Fleming Park has been canceled due to rough conditions and a south wind.

The Township issued the following statement:

“Due to drought conditions and unfavorable south winds, The Woodlands Township’s fireworks show has been cancelled at the Rob Fleming Park location, 6055 Creekside Forest Drive, in the Village of Creekside Park. In addition, the Red, Hot and Blue Festival at Rob Fleming Park will conclude at 8 p.m. to allow community members to have time to travel to the other show locations.

The four other viewing locations at Waterway Square, Town Green Park, Hughes Landing and Northshore Park are expected to continue at this time. Multiple viewing locations are available along The Woodlands Waterway.

The Woodlands Township has been monitoring wind and drought conditions very diligently. This show location resides in an area nearer to a higher density of forest than the other shows being produced by the Township.

“The winds from the south are at higher than desired levels and pose a threat to safety in this area,” said Fire Chief Palmer Buck, noting that much of the nearby area is the George Mitchell Nature Preserve.”
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Incident Location: 6055 Creekside Forest Drive
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Im not getting my hopes up yet, but the 00z GFS is hinting at a return to a “wetter” pattern next week, fingers crossed🤞🤞🤞
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Well this is not good. The forecast was very good from July 2020.

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captainbarbossa19 yikes that 2022 forecast definitely raises a red flag for sure
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Honestly, I would rather have another Allison, Harvey, or Imelda than either this drought or the 2021 freeze. That's how much I dislike droughts and freezes.
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I hate droughts as well, but I definitely wouldnt want another Alison or Harvey, rain would be welcomed but not 40 inches of rain all in a few days😆😬
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Stratton20 wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:50 pm I hate droughts as well, but I definitely wouldnt want another Alison or Harvey, rain would be welcomed but not 40 inches of rain all in a few days😆😬
Give me about 10 inches spread out over a two week period and I’ll be a happy camper lol in a perfect world, right? Now for freezes I’m perfectly fine with those. Droughts are the worst imo. Tremendously boring! Nothing to look forward to.
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Well maybe there’s hope..

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