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christinac2016 wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:05 pm I keep telling mom to prepare. Dad is going to wrap pipes in the next few days. Mom likes to wait for tv meteorologists to bring it up. 🤦🏼‍♀️ also she’s of the she’ll believe it when she feels/sees it.
One of the neighboring farms, the guy is 72. He gets his news from the news channels. When I asked him if he needed help winterizing troughs he looked at me weird. Then I showed him a few sites and the multiple models and had a WTF look and said, yeah let’s go ahead.
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MontgomeryCoWx wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:04 pm
Cpv17 wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 7:59 pm The latest ICON model has temps at 88°F below normal in Montana.
That’s a first. Holy ****!
Just goes to show you that the models could still be underestimating the cold.
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88 below normal, im not even sure any model run came even close to showing a value like that during the 2021 february outbreak, if the models are still underestimating the cold, this could get really ugly for those northern states
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Stratton20 wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:16 pm 88 below normal, im not even sure any model run came even close to showing a value like that during the 2021 february outbreak, if the models are still underestimating the cold, this could get really ugly for those northern states
Yeah. All-time record lows wouldn’t surprise me in some areas at this point.
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I’m feeling very confident based on trends and the cold pooling that I will see teens, easy…. Outside shot at singles depending on precip
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MontgomeryCoWx wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:28 pm I’m feeling very confident based on trends and the cold pooling that I will see teens, easy…. Outside shot at singles depending on precip
Also, ensembles keep the cold around. Even at the end of the ensemble runs, it still has a solidly cold look to it. Impressive signal for cold that far out.
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I got another cell over me. This is great.

Atmosphere just doesn’t want to give up.
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Cpv17 wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 7:59 pm The latest ICON model has temps at 88°F below normal in Montana.
That is like December 1821, January 1886 or February 1899 level.
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Cpv17 wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:21 pm
Stratton20 wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 8:16 pm 88 below normal, im not even sure any model run came even close to showing a value like that during the 2021 february outbreak, if the models are still underestimating the cold, this could get really ugly for those northern states
Yeah. All-time record lows wouldn’t surprise me in some areas at this point.
The coldest in the Lower 48 is in Rogers Pass, Montana at -69.7°F on January 20, 1954. However, that is disputed.
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Colde ... tiguous-US
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Ptarmigan wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:13 pm
Cpv17 wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 7:59 pm The latest ICON model has temps at 88°F below normal in Montana.
That is like December 1821, January 1886 or February 1899 level.
I’ve read about Jane Long and December 1821. Galveston Bay froze over really thick.
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Just had some pea size hail here in Richmond!
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Just had a small cell with hail come over us in Richmond/Sugar Land. Wow.
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It’s hailing again. Wow!
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00z ICON is even colder, puts us in the meat locker and hints at some precipitation as well
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It is consistent and relentless.

I’m in the low teens Tuesday morning. Well my house is. I’ll be in KC.
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Just had a brief round of hail here in Atascocita.
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It's hailing again 3 hours after the front...what in the world?
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It's hailing here also. Elevated thunderstorms,and cold air aloft. 😀
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It’s time to winterize gents.

Models are going gangbusters.
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CMC coming in colder, GFS has highs in the 20’s with some frozen precip down to the coast
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