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Of note. Both the 0z GFS and ICON flirt with trying to develop 96l. GFS brings the energy into the w gom in a week heading in the general direction of the middle/upper texas coast.
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Don't see that very often in the modeling world.

Fujiwhara with Beryl and 96l.
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For those wondering 'What the hell is he talking about?" Run a loop of the 850 vort. As the remnants of Beryl retrogrades back to the sw and 96l attempts to organize as it approaches the upper texas coast they rotate around each other. Really fascinating stuff even if it's almost certain not to happen.
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Euro, GFS, CMC would all give us rain after Beryl washes ashore in south Texas and moves north. I'll sign up for it!
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Euro goes into just north of tampico but has a weaker shstem approaching the yucatan which is why its further south, around 993 mb, i am not sure about this, i think some guidance is really over doing this thing weakening
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Stratton20 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 12:35 am Euro goes into just north of tampico but has a weaker shstem approaching the yucatan which is why its further south, around 993 mb, i am not sure about this, i think some guidance is really over doing this thing weakening
Only about a 600 mile difference between the Euro and ICON :lol:
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Well after some scary talk about potential, Beryl is still trending to Mexico. Flip flop sort of continues, really. It's just not time to lock it down.

One thing is for sure. More changes are coming. What will be it's final destination?

Stay tuned
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Im still not going to accept any landfall till we get near the nowcasting point. …For example, look at the hurricane cone for hurricane Ike. NHC had Ike turning northward at one point and making landfall at Florida. As the days progressed, the cone constantly shifted westward finally honing in on the Galveston area. Hurricane Ritas cone was way off for a while before honing in to SETX.
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06z GFS big shift north into corpus
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djmike wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 4:49 am IMG_2175.jpeg


Im still not going to accept any landfall till we get near the nowcasting point. …For example, look at the hurricane cone for hurricane Ike. NHC had Ike turning northward at one point and making landfall at Florida. As the days progressed, the cone constantly shifted westward finally honing in on the Galveston area. Hurricane Ritas cone was way off for a while before honing in to SETX.
Great point.
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Beryl made landfall on the GFS 6z in south Texas and then turned north.
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Fairly good jump with the 6z GFS. Tugs nnw as it nears landfall around Rockport. Also continues to develop 96l, this time as a strong tropical storm between High Island and Sabine Pass. Second run in a row that it shows a Fujiwhara effect between the remnants of Beryl and developing 96l.

0z hurricane models were further s overnight. Will be interesting if the s trend that we saw yesterday reverts back and they begin joining what the GFS and ICON are showing.
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From the Eyewall


Hurricane Beryl was a resilient storm through much of yesterday, as its core managed to resist some of the shear Beryl began experiencing. Alas, Beryl's satellite presentation has degraded markedly this morning, with even the eye becoming filled with clouds. Beryl appears to finally be feeling the wind shear that was expected to impact the storm as it moved into the western Caribbean. That said, its on a beeline for Jamaica as a major hurricane and conditions should begin to deteriorate through the day today. Significant surge and wind, in addition to heavy rainfall should arrive in Jamaica today and continue into tonight. Despite the satellite presentation degrading, that is still a nasty core of the hurricane heading to Jamaica. For the Cayman Islands, surge and wind, in addition to heavy rain arrive late tonight or tomorrow. Total rainfall will be near or over a foot (300 mm) in eastern Jamaica, with widespread totals of 8 to 10 inches (200 to 250 mm) from the Caymans into Cozumel and the northeast Yucatan. As Beryl comes west, it is expected to maintain hurricane intensity as it approaches the Yucatan this weekend. The current forecast likely keeps the center of the storm south of Cancun and Cozumel, with a landfall likely near or south of Tulum. In recent days, the debate within modeling has been surrounding its intensity. A stronger storm was more likely to lift northwest toward the Houston area or Louisiana, while a weaker storm would stay farther south into Mexico or extreme south Texas. We seem to be approaching a mild consensus right now on that track. There are still a very, very small number of outliers bringing Beryl north of Matagorda Bay late this weekend. However, the vast majority of ensemble members and tropical models are now in decent agreement in bringing Beryl more on the southern half of the forecast envelope.


Track forecast consensus has started to increase a bit for late this weekend. As long as Beryl behaves as expected, there is moderate agreement that it will track between South Padre Island and Tampico, MX when it encounters the Gulf Coast.
For information specific to Houston, check out the latest at Space City Weather. But it would appear that this comes in well south of the Houston area. It will be important to check back again later today or tomorrow morning just to ensure that remains the case. The Yucatan will do a number on Beryl, but there may be a brief window for Beryl to regain strong tropical storm or hurricane status as it comes across the Bay of Campeche before coming ashore. One interesting wrinkle with Beryl, regardless of its intensity as it comes ashore in the western Gulf will be how fast it slams on the brakes. Beryl has been plowing west all week around 20 mph give or take. When it gets to the Gulf Coast, the strong high pressure that had been steering Beryl will begin to weaken some but not dissipate completely. Meanwhile, the West will be enduring a long-duration heat wave with strong high pressure over California.


The upper pattern is slowly coming into focus Sunday with Beryl growing increasingly unlikely to be "captured" by troughing over the Upper Midwest or northern Plains. Beryl could slow to a crawl over northern Mexico or far south Texas. That could lead to steering currents weakening and forcing Beryl to slow down substantially or even stall out for a short time over Mexico or far South Texas. When the "s" word gets thrown around, I know some folks in Texas can panic, but I want to be clear. This isn't a Harvey-redux. Even models that do show a stall keep rain totals far under that. That being said, this is a unique storm on its own and while rain would be extremely welcome in the Rio Grande and northern Mexico, too much rain can always cause issues. So we'll watch trends in the coming days closely. The current 7-day rainfall forecast through next Wednesday morning shows the potential for 5 inches of rain in far South Texas or northern Mexico. Higher amounts are likely in spots. Rain should transition to scattered thunderstorms into next week over Texas and Mexico.
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From HGX NWS

.TROPICAL...
Issued at 354 AM CDT Wed Jul 3 2024

Hurricane Beryl continues to work its way westward across the Caribbean
Sea. The official National Hurricane Center forecast has Beryl crossing
the Yucatan Peninsula on Friday and Friday night and then working its
way toward a landfall just south of the Texas/Mexico border on Sunday
evening/night. Keep updated with the latest National Hurricane Center
advisories on Beryl as any significant changes in the track and/or intensity
forecast could lead to significant changes in our area forecast.
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I am not buying these models just yet. These south trends is based off the Berly being weak. One thing this storm has shown us is that she is a fighter. She is still firing off towers
Once she clears Jamica if she is still intact and strong I will think track changes.
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Icon, gfs, hwrf, euro 06 ensembles all shifted north
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tireman4 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:23 am From the Eyewall


Hurricane Beryl was a resilient storm through much of yesterday, as its core managed to resist some of the shear Beryl began experiencing. Alas, Beryl's satellite presentation has degraded markedly this morning, with even the eye becoming filled with clouds. Beryl appears to finally be feeling the wind shear that was expected to impact the storm as it moved into the western Caribbean. That said, its on a beeline for Jamaica as a major hurricane and conditions should begin to deteriorate through the day today. Significant surge and wind, in addition to heavy rainfall should arrive in Jamaica today and continue into tonight. Despite the satellite presentation degrading, that is still a nasty core of the hurricane heading to Jamaica. For the Cayman Islands, surge and wind, in addition to heavy rain arrive late tonight or tomorrow. Total rainfall will be near or over a foot (300 mm) in eastern Jamaica, with widespread totals of 8 to 10 inches (200 to 250 mm) from the Caymans into Cozumel and the northeast Yucatan. As Beryl comes west, it is expected to maintain hurricane intensity as it approaches the Yucatan this weekend. The current forecast likely keeps the center of the storm south of Cancun and Cozumel, with a landfall likely near or south of Tulum. In recent days, the debate within modeling has been surrounding its intensity. A stronger storm was more likely to lift northwest toward the Houston area or Louisiana, while a weaker storm would stay farther south into Mexico or extreme south Texas. We seem to be approaching a mild consensus right now on that track. There are still a very, very small number of outliers bringing Beryl north of Matagorda Bay late this weekend. However, the vast majority of ensemble members and tropical models are now in decent agreement in bringing Beryl more on the southern half of the forecast envelope.


Track forecast consensus has started to increase a bit for late this weekend. As long as Beryl behaves as expected, there is moderate agreement that it will track between South Padre Island and Tampico, MX when it encounters the Gulf Coast.
For information specific to Houston, check out the latest at Space City Weather. But it would appear that this comes in well south of the Houston area. It will be important to check back again later today or tomorrow morning just to ensure that remains the case. The Yucatan will do a number on Beryl, but there may be a brief window for Beryl to regain strong tropical storm or hurricane status as it comes across the Bay of Campeche before coming ashore. One interesting wrinkle with Beryl, regardless of its intensity as it comes ashore in the western Gulf will be how fast it slams on the brakes. Beryl has been plowing west all week around 20 mph give or take. When it gets to the Gulf Coast, the strong high pressure that had been steering Beryl will begin to weaken some but not dissipate completely. Meanwhile, the West will be enduring a long-duration heat wave with strong high pressure over California.


The upper pattern is slowly coming into focus Sunday with Beryl growing increasingly unlikely to be "captured" by troughing over the Upper Midwest or northern Plains. Beryl could slow to a crawl over northern Mexico or far south Texas. That could lead to steering currents weakening and forcing Beryl to slow down substantially or even stall out for a short time over Mexico or far South Texas. When the "s" word gets thrown around, I know some folks in Texas can panic, but I want to be clear. This isn't a Harvey-redux. Even models that do show a stall keep rain totals far under that. That being said, this is a unique storm on its own and while rain would be extremely welcome in the Rio Grande and northern Mexico, too much rain can always cause issues. So we'll watch trends in the coming days closely. The current 7-day rainfall forecast through next Wednesday morning shows the potential for 5 inches of rain in far South Texas or northern Mexico. Higher amounts are likely in spots. Rain should transition to scattered thunderstorms into next week over Texas and Mexico.
Who wrote this? WAY too early to give a hard forecast like this. Anyone want to bet this will change?
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redneckweather wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:25 am
tireman4 wrote: Wed Jul 03, 2024 7:23 am From the Eyewall


Hurricane Beryl was a resilient storm through much of yesterday, as its core managed to resist some of the shear Beryl began experiencing. Alas, Beryl's satellite presentation has degraded markedly this morning, with even the eye becoming filled with clouds. Beryl appears to finally be feeling the wind shear that was expected to impact the storm as it moved into the western Caribbean. That said, its on a beeline for Jamaica as a major hurricane and conditions should begin to deteriorate through the day today. Significant surge and wind, in addition to heavy rainfall should arrive in Jamaica today and continue into tonight. Despite the satellite presentation degrading, that is still a nasty core of the hurricane heading to Jamaica. For the Cayman Islands, surge and wind, in addition to heavy rain arrive late tonight or tomorrow. Total rainfall will be near or over a foot (300 mm) in eastern Jamaica, with widespread totals of 8 to 10 inches (200 to 250 mm) from the Caymans into Cozumel and the northeast Yucatan. As Beryl comes west, it is expected to maintain hurricane intensity as it approaches the Yucatan this weekend. The current forecast likely keeps the center of the storm south of Cancun and Cozumel, with a landfall likely near or south of Tulum. In recent days, the debate within modeling has been surrounding its intensity. A stronger storm was more likely to lift northwest toward the Houston area or Louisiana, while a weaker storm would stay farther south into Mexico or extreme south Texas. We seem to be approaching a mild consensus right now on that track. There are still a very, very small number of outliers bringing Beryl north of Matagorda Bay late this weekend. However, the vast majority of ensemble members and tropical models are now in decent agreement in bringing Beryl more on the southern half of the forecast envelope.


Track forecast consensus has started to increase a bit for late this weekend. As long as Beryl behaves as expected, there is moderate agreement that it will track between South Padre Island and Tampico, MX when it encounters the Gulf Coast.
For information specific to Houston, check out the latest at Space City Weather. But it would appear that this comes in well south of the Houston area. It will be important to check back again later today or tomorrow morning just to ensure that remains the case. The Yucatan will do a number on Beryl, but there may be a brief window for Beryl to regain strong tropical storm or hurricane status as it comes across the Bay of Campeche before coming ashore. One interesting wrinkle with Beryl, regardless of its intensity as it comes ashore in the western Gulf will be how fast it slams on the brakes. Beryl has been plowing west all week around 20 mph give or take. When it gets to the Gulf Coast, the strong high pressure that had been steering Beryl will begin to weaken some but not dissipate completely. Meanwhile, the West will be enduring a long-duration heat wave with strong high pressure over California.


The upper pattern is slowly coming into focus Sunday with Beryl growing increasingly unlikely to be "captured" by troughing over the Upper Midwest or northern Plains. Beryl could slow to a crawl over northern Mexico or far south Texas. That could lead to steering currents weakening and forcing Beryl to slow down substantially or even stall out for a short time over Mexico or far South Texas. When the "s" word gets thrown around, I know some folks in Texas can panic, but I want to be clear. This isn't a Harvey-redux. Even models that do show a stall keep rain totals far under that. That being said, this is a unique storm on its own and while rain would be extremely welcome in the Rio Grande and northern Mexico, too much rain can always cause issues. So we'll watch trends in the coming days closely. The current 7-day rainfall forecast through next Wednesday morning shows the potential for 5 inches of rain in far South Texas or northern Mexico. Higher amounts are likely in spots. Rain should transition to scattered thunderstorms into next week over Texas and Mexico.
Who wrote this? WAY too early to give a hard forecast like this. Anyone want to bet this will change?

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Still seems likely to miss Houston well south, but a rain/flooding scenario may evolve in far S Texas and Mexico next week.
Matt Lanza. He is a pro Met in Houston. He has is BS in Meteorology from Rutgers. He and Eric Berger write for The Eyewall. He is still sticking to his guns ( by the way, I trust all pro mets. I do not know enough..but am still learning, to say anything otherwise. They are pros for a reason).

Now Eric maybe hedging his bets...


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After Hurricane Beryl moves into the Gulf on Friday, what happens? There are a lot of questions about what happens next, and this post attempts to address them as best we can.
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From Jeff Lindner ( 5 minutes ago)

7/3/24 AM Beryl
Powerful hurricane Beryl heading for Jamaica where significant impacts are imminent.
Hurricane watch for the eastern Yucatán and warning for the Cayman Islands.
Beryl is still a strong hurricane this morning but shear is impacting the hurricane and gradual weakening is occurring.
There have been so significant changes overnight with track guidance with questions still on how Beryl responds to a trough over the center plains this weekend once in the Gulf of Mexico…some of this will have to do with how strong Beryl is or becomes in the Gulf so there remain uncertainty. There are some indications this morning that the expected wind shear in the Hulf may be weaker allowing Beryl to become a bit stronger and we will need to watch for any trend here in the next few days.
Persons and interests in the western Gulf should be monitoring forecast closely for any changes into late this week.
Persons along the S TX coast south of Kingsville need to have their hurricane plan in place and be ready to enact that plan by this Friday.
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VDM as of an hour ago


000
URNT12 KNHC 031303
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL022024
A. 03/12:40:40Z
B. 16.85 deg N 075.49 deg W
C. 700 mb 2722 m
D. 953 mb
E. 095 deg 12 kt
F. OPEN SW
G. C36
H. 92 kt
I. 131 deg 11 nm 12:37:00Z
J. 214 deg 100 kt
K. 131 deg 10 nm 12:37:30Z
L. 123 kt
M. 309 deg 10 nm 12:43:30Z
N. 054 deg 131 kt
O. 310 deg 14 nm 12:44:30Z
P. 11 C / 3040 m
Q. 22 C / 3066 m
R. 8 C / NA
S. 12345 / 7
T. 0.02 / 1 nm
U. AF306 1402A BERYL OB 13
MAX FL WIND 139 KT 051 / 11 NM 11:33:30Z


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A. DATE AND TIME OF FIX
B. LOCATION OF THE VORTEX CENTER ("FIX")
C. MINIMUM HEIGHT AT STANDARD LEVEL
D. MINIMUM SEA-LEVEL PRESSURE
E. DROPSONDE CENTER WIND SPEED AND DIRECTION
F. EYE CHARACTER
G. EYE SHAPE ORIENTATION AND DIAMETER
H. ESTIMATE OF MAXIMUM SURFACE WIND SPEED OBSERVED ON INBOUND LEG (IN KNOTS)
I. BEARING, RANGE, AND TIME OF THE WIND SPEED OBSERVED IN ITEM H
J. MAXIMUM INBOUND FLIGHT-LEVEL WIND SPEED AND DIRECTION
K. BEARING, RANGE, AND TIME OF THE WIND OBSERVED IN ITEM J
L. ESTIMATE OF MAXIMUM SURFACE WIND SPEED OBSERVED WHILE FLYING OUTBOUND (IN KNOTS)
M. BEARING, RANGE, AND TIME OF THE WIND SPEED OBSERVED IN ITEM L
N. MAXIMUM OUTBOUND FLIGHT-LEVEL WIND SPEED AND DIRECTION
O. BEARING, RANGE, AND TIME OF THE WIND OBSERVED IN ITEM N
P. MAXIMUM FLIGHT-LEVEL TEMPERATURE / PRESSURE ALTITUDE OUTSIDE THE EYE
Q. MAXIMUM FLIGHT-LEVEL TEMPERATURE / PRESSURE ALTITUDE INSIDE THE EYE
R. DEW POINT TEMPERATURE / SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURE INSIDE THE EYE
S. FIX DETERMINED BY / FIX LEVEL
T. NAVIGATION FIX ACCURACY / METEOROLOGICAL ACCURACY
U. REMARKS SECTION
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