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Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Departs 9:30 AM CDT.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:49 am
by srainhoutx
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WHXX01 KWBC 251241
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1241 UTC FRI JUN 25 2010
DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.
ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR
DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL932010) 20100625 1200 UTC
...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
100625 1200 100626 0000 100626 1200 100627 0000
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 16.5N 82.5W 17.0N 84.3W 17.7N 86.1W 18.4N 87.8W
BAMD 16.5N 82.5W 16.7N 84.3W 17.0N 86.2W 17.4N 88.0W
BAMM 16.5N 82.5W 16.9N 84.4W 17.4N 86.2W 17.9N 87.8W
LBAR 16.5N 82.5W 16.9N 84.3W 17.7N 86.3W 18.8N 88.3W
SHIP 30KTS 37KTS 45KTS 55KTS
DSHP 30KTS 37KTS 45KTS 55KTS
...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
100627 1200 100628 1200 100629 1200 100630 1200
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 19.0N 89.3W 20.4N 92.0W 21.3N 94.1W 21.8N 96.4W
BAMD 17.8N 89.5W 18.9N 91.6W 19.7N 93.3W 20.9N 95.7W
BAMM 18.4N 89.3W 19.9N 91.4W 21.0N 93.3W 21.9N 95.5W
LBAR 20.1N 90.1W 23.0N 92.8W 26.2N 94.5W 29.3N 94.2W
SHIP 63KTS 76KTS 78KTS 77KTS
DSHP 37KTS 36KTS 38KTS 37KTS
...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 16.5N LONCUR = 82.5W DIRCUR = 280DEG SPDCUR = 5KT
LATM12 = 16.0N LONM12 = 81.6W DIRM12 = 276DEG SPDM12 = 5KT
LATM24 = 16.3N LONM24 = 80.3W
WNDCUR = 30KT RMAXWD = 100NM WNDM12 = 25KT
CENPRS = 1005MB OUTPRS = 1010MB OUTRAD = 200NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
$$
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Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Departs 9:30 AM CDT.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:18 am
by ticka1
Friday Morning email from Jeff Lindner on his tropics update:
93L:
Tropical wave over the western Caribbean Sea has become better organized overnight with the formation of a 1008mb surface low off the NE coast of Honduras. Convection has been increasing near and to the east of this surface center and overall the system appears to be slowly organizing.
Track:
Various solutions continue to play out in the guidance as is common when a well defined closed surface center is not present. CMC, EURO, NOGAPS, and GFS all indicate a system heading for Texas or Mexico, while the GFDL and HWRF show the system strongly recurving over the Gulf of Mexico toward Florida. Feel the GFDL and HWRF and too far east and too deep with the Midwest trough…not to mention they have the system moving NW starting right now which is not the case. EURO has been fairly consistent in taking a tropical storm toward S TX and the CMC (well it is up to its usual mischief of a strong storm heading for S TX and N MX). GFS and NOGAPS bring a weak and disorganized system toward the western Gulf coast. Coordinate HPC/NHC tracks bring a closed surface low into the western Gulf of Mexico by next Tuesday. We no reason as to not split the difference in the guidance with more weight toward the southern and western tracks and less toward the GFDL and HWRF suggesting a potential threat from Louisiana westward to Mexico.
Intensity:
With the exception of the robust CMC, all other guidance keeps the system weak or as a tropical storm. The current likely track suggest a impact on the Yucatan over the weekend which will result in weakening and disorganization. Conditions over the Gulf of Mexico appears favorable for intensification as water temperatures are warm and upper level winds light. Looks good for a tropical storm at some point and this falls in line with most guidance keeping the system weak, but large over the western Gulf.
Impacts:
Would likely need to start ramping things up in the seas and wind department, but without a defined system of yet, nor any official track from NHC…will wait. All guidance suggest impacts are still at or just beyond 5 days out (Tuesday of next week). Could probably bring seas up over the outer waters starting Monday and spreading them toward the coast on Tuesday, but will hold off on suggesting TS force conditions just yet. Incoming weak front will also be sliding southward early next week and this feature combined with a potential incoming tropical system spells lots of rainfall along the entire TX coast.
Residents are urged to keep updated on the weather over the weekend and be prepared to take any necessary actions by early next week to prepare for the landfall of a tropical system. It would be a good time to review your hurricane plans and have your hurricane supplies fully stocked, if we do not need it this time, we still have a long way to go!
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Departs 9:30 AM CDT.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:46 am
by srainhoutx
Organizing slowly...
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Departs 9:30 AM CDT.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:48 am
by sleetstorm
From what I saw on the Rainbow Infrared Satellite in motion a little earlier, that thing still does not have much spin in it if even any at all. Also, if that tropical wave is going to make that turn to the northwest traversing the Yucatan Paninsula into the Gulf of Mexico then it needs to do that some time today or tonight. Do any of you concur with that?
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Departs 9:30 AM CDT.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:57 am
by srainhoutx
High Res Visible satellite imagery will be the only way to 'see' what happening at the lower levels sleet. Forecasters look for the motion of clouds in the lower levels to determine where any low level circulation is occurring. We will know much more when RECON arrives near the noon hour.
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Departs 9:30 AM CDT.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:05 am
by sleetstorm
Its proximity to Honduras and Guatemala is, needless to say, the reason why I said that.
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Departs 9:30 AM CDT.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:28 am
by sleetstorm
srainhoutx wrote:High Res Visible satellite imagery will be the only way to 'see' what happening at the lower levels sleet. Forecasters look for the motion of clouds in the lower levels to determine where any low level circulation is occurring. We will know much more when RECON arrives near the noon hour.
Yes, that would make better sense. Would the High Res Visible satellite imagery be the same as the visible satellite imagery, srainhoutx?
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Departs 9:30 AM CDT.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:30 am
by srainhoutx
sleetstorm wrote:srainhoutx wrote:High Res Visible satellite imagery will be the only way to 'see' what happening at the lower levels sleet. Forecasters look for the motion of clouds in the lower levels to determine where any low level circulation is occurring. We will know much more when RECON arrives near the noon hour.
Yes, that would make better sense. Would the High Res Visible satellite imagery be the same as the visible satellite imagery, srainhoutx?
Here is a good one sleet...click on the image and change the amount of images in a loop and speed it up...
http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseastconus.html
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Enroute.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:11 am
by srainhoutx
RECON enroute from Kessler AFB Biloxi, MS.
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Enroute.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:38 am
by Hardcoreweather
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Enroute.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:39 am
by ticka1
Thanks HCW for that post....let's you know where recon is....
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Enroute.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:50 am
by Hardcoreweather
ticka1 wrote:Thanks HCW for that post....let's you know where recon is....
almost like they went out of the way to check out the oil spill and the rig in the GOM

Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Enroute.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:01 am
by wxman57
We cannot find any specific LLC here. Unless something changes in the next 3-4 hours, the plane may not be able to close off a well-defined LLC for an upgrade.
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Enroute.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:00 pm
by sleetstorm
Hardcoreweather wrote:
Where did you go to get that map tracking the reconnaissance hurricane hunter air plane, Hardcore?
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Enroute.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:17 pm
by Hardcoreweather
GRlevelx radar with overlays from
http://www.allisonhouse.com/
Looks like they have 2 planes checking out 93L one left MS and one is sampling the environment in the GOM and left Tampa a couple of hours ago
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Enroute.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:40 pm
by Scott747
12z HWRF/GFDL continue to insist on the Florida Panhandle.
Might have some decent runs to finally look at by 0z tonight if they happen to close it off this afternoon with recon. Looks 50/50 right now.
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Enroute.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:17 pm
by Mr. T
They closed it off according to several at Eastern
It's TD 1
Live RECON data in Google Earth
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:28 pm
by unome
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Enroute.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:35 pm
by Hardcoreweather
Originally Posted by Hurricane View Post
2nd recon plane is for this, The one from Tampa is NOAA's Kermit flying the Deepwater letting. They do it once a week, drop radio floats that helps nail the currents for oilcasts.
Re: 93L Western Caribbean. RECON Enroute.
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:09 pm
by unome
no west winds on 1st go-round
