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DoctorMu wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:41 am The cold front blew through here just after midnight ; overperforming as expected. Nothing really has changed much. Snow above I-10. Mix below I-10.
I know we are in for a mix but ar3 we atleast going to get some snow south of i10 or is it all just going to be freezing rain and sleet
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As of this morning, I still don't see any reason to change my thinking on this. I posted some details on this Tue-Wed, the warm nose is going to appear as the models deepen the low, and gulf lows tend to ingest warmer air from the south than what you see on the globals. The incoming Hi-Res models are starting to show this. Don't be surprised as the globals finally catch up.
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Brazoriatx979 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:50 am
DoctorMu wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:41 am The cold front blew through here just after midnight ; overperforming as expected. Nothing really has changed much. Snow above I-10. Mix below I-10.
I know we are in for a mix but ar3 we atleast going to get some snow south of i10 or is it all just going to be freezing rain and sleet
You will eventually change over but you'll be cursing that dreaded highway 1** again.
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I may be stating the obvious here but most folks are not going to see one single P-type from this event. Most of metro Houston is going to get a mix of freezing rain, sleet and snow. All of them. I know a lot of folks are wondering 'Am I gonna get this' OR 'am I gonna get that'? It's gonna be yes and yes, but more snow and less ice the further NW you go.
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DoctorMu wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:41 am The cold front blew through here just after midnight ; overperforming as expected. Nothing really has changed much. Snow above I-10. Mix below I-10.
We’ll likely hear the I-10 marker used as a reference point quite a bit in the coming days. Just a reminder that you can’t take that literally. For example, even if the forecast bears out as predicted, if you live a few miles south of I-10, you could still end up getting the weather forecasted north of I-10, and if you live a few miles north of I-10, you could end up getting the weather forecasted south of I-10.
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winter storm watch issued for our area eastward
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jasons2k wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:01 am The initial front has been long advertised as coming through here Midday Saturday. When I woke up the wind was already blowing out of the north.
If there was wind with the front, did it calm down after the front went through?
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sambucol wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:10 am
jasons2k wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:01 am The initial front has been long advertised as coming through here Midday Saturday. When I woke up the wind was already blowing out of the north.
If there was wind with the front, did it calm down after the front went through?
I have a steady 15mph NW wind with gusts to 25mph.
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txsnowmaker wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:00 am
DoctorMu wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:41 am The cold front blew through here just after midnight ; overperforming as expected. Nothing really has changed much. Snow above I-10. Mix below I-10.
We’ll likely hear the I-10 marker used as a reference point quite a bit in the coming days. Just a reminder that you can’t take that literally. For example, even if the forecast bears out as predicted, if you live a few miles south of I-10, you could still end up getting the weather forecasted north of I-10, and if you live a few miles north of I-10, you could end up getting the weather forecasted south of I-10.
Not to mention I-10 in Beaumont and Orange for instance, is a good bit more north than say I-10 in Houston. Some of Beaumont is even north of Hwy 105. I don't know how we're supposed to use those as reference points here.
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So I guess hou/gal will wait till the last minute to issue watches and warnings like they always do
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Goomba wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:20 am
txsnowmaker wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:00 am
DoctorMu wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:41 am The cold front blew through here just after midnight ; overperforming as expected. Nothing really has changed much. Snow above I-10. Mix below I-10.
We’ll likely hear the I-10 marker used as a reference point quite a bit in the coming days. Just a reminder that you can’t take that literally. For example, even if the forecast bears out as predicted, if you live a few miles south of I-10, you could still end up getting the weather forecasted north of I-10, and if you live a few miles north of I-10, you could end up getting the weather forecasted south of I-10.
Not to mention I-10 in Beaumont and Orange for instance, is a good bit more north than say I-10 in Houston. Some of Beaumont is even north of Hwy 105. I don't know how we're supposed to use those as reference points here.
I always said the same thing for I-10 in Beaumont. Now if Houston uses I-10 as a border line, I just draw an imaginary line from I -10 in Houston and continue that imaginary line eastward with no deviations, so technically Beaumont is much further north if Houston uses I-10 as a border line. If looking at a map, Beaumont is pretty much in line to The Woodlands or Spring area which are areas well north of the I-10 line in Houston. Also, as mentioned before, weather isn’t going to immediately halt when it hits I-10. Many can see same weather below or above I-10. For now its just a possible area of a transition.
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Whatever falls I'm good with . I just got 2 days off with pay so whatever happens happens lol
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Jeff linder said they are going to start issuing the watches and warnings this afternoon
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djmike wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:51 am
Goomba wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:20 am
txsnowmaker wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:00 am

We’ll likely hear the I-10 marker used as a reference point quite a bit in the coming days. Just a reminder that you can’t take that literally. For example, even if the forecast bears out as predicted, if you live a few miles south of I-10, you could still end up getting the weather forecasted north of I-10, and if you live a few miles north of I-10, you could end up getting the weather forecasted south of I-10.
Not to mention I-10 in Beaumont and Orange for instance, is a good bit more north than say I-10 in Houston. Some of Beaumont is even north of Hwy 105. I don't know how we're supposed to use those as reference points here.
I always said the same thing for I-10 in Beaumont. Now if Houston uses I-10 as a border line, I just draw an imaginary line from I -10 in Houston and continue that imaginary line eastward with no deviations, so technically Beaumont is much further north if Houston uses I-10 as a border line. If looking at a map, Beaumont is pretty much in line to The Woodlands or Spring area which are areas well north of the I-10 line in Houston. Also, as mentioned before, weather isn’t going to immediately halt when it hits I-10. Many can see same weather below or above I-10. For now its just a possible area of a transition.
That may be true but the slope of the coast also changes, so Beaumont is closer to the Gulf than Houston is. And that plays a larger role than latitude alone in these kind of setups. That's probably the same reason why Beaumont gets more rain annually than Houston does on average. Not saying you wont see snow just something to keep in mind. It's closer to the influence of the Gulf...
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don wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:57 am
djmike wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:51 am
Goomba wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 9:20 am
Not to mention I-10 in Beaumont and Orange for instance, is a good bit more north than say I-10 in Houston. Some of Beaumont is even north of Hwy 105. I don't know how we're supposed to use those as reference points here.
I always said the same thing for I-10 in Beaumont. Now if Houston uses I-10 as a border line, I just draw an imaginary line from I -10 in Houston and continue that imaginary line eastward with no deviations, so technically Beaumont is much further north if Houston uses I-10 as a border line. If looking at a map, Beaumont is pretty much in line to The Woodlands or Spring area which are areas well north of the I-10 line in Houston. Also, as mentioned before, weather isn’t going to immediately halt when it hits I-10. Many can see same weather below or above I-10. For now its just a possible area of a transition.
That may be true but the slope of the coast also changes, so Beaumont is closer to the Gulf than Houston is. And that plays a larger role than latitude alone in these kind of setups. That's probably the same reason why Beaumont gets more rain annually than Houston does on average. Not saying you wont see snow just something to keep in mind. It's closer to the influence of the Gulf...
That makes sense. Thank you. Maybe Houston wasn't the best example. Look at the Winnie area. Some of Winnie is north of I-10 and it's definitely closer to the Gulf than Beaumont. I-10 makes that abrupt NW turn near Winnie. I realize that overall it's a great reference point. I just don't think it's ideal for this area. It's not a big deal, just an observation. And while I'm hoping for snow, I'm not expecting it, no matter how high the chances are. But dang... 70% chance of snow is pretty high.
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We may have to start watching thursday as well. some of the guidance is hinting at a 2nd trough moving through the area bringing a chance for light snow from houston southward, just worth watching for now
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GFS, Canadian, and ICON trends from last several runs all moving in the direction of more snow further south into metro Houston.
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txsnowmaker wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:35 am GFS, Canadian, and ICON trends from last several runs all moving in the direction of more snow further south into metro Houston.
Keep moving south!
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