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Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:25 am
by cperk
srainhoutx when will the data from the Gulfstream be incorporated into the models.

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:28 am
by tireman4
Starting to get stronger...

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:32 am
by tireman4
Houston NWS Update

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:37 am
by Scott747
Scott747 wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:09 pm While the low level recon data helps some it won't be till the G-IV flight early in the morning that is usually a difference maker. As long as that flight isn't delayed and on schedule, it will be ingested into the 12z model runs.

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:44 am
by cperk
Scott747 wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:37 am
Scott747 wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:09 pm While the low level recon data helps some it won't be till the G-IV flight early in the morning that is usually a difference maker. As long as that flight isn't delayed and on schedule, it will be ingested into the 12z model runs.
Thanks Scott.

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:44 am
by srainhoutx
Communication issues have been impacting most of the National servers including the WPC since about 4 AM Eastern Time. The various missions have been flying without problems, but data has been extremely slow to the public. We'll see if the 12Z Suite of guidance has been able to ingest the G-IV data in a couple of hours.

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:50 am
by Cpv17
Srain, this system will impact you more than it will Texas.

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:04 am
by Cromagnum
Definitely appears to be getting it's act together quickly.

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Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:08 am
by Stratton20
This is a good and and bad thing that this is missing us1. Its good because we wont have to deal with a devastating hit (thoughts and prayers go out to folks in Louisiana, its going to be a tough next few days for them ) but #2 its bad because since the cyclone is staying well too our east, that means the heat energy in the far western / northwestern gulf is still undisturbed or untapped... Hope we dont have any problems in september, but im not putting my money on that lol

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:09 am
by srainhoutx
Cpv17 wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:50 am Srain, this system will impact you more than it will Texas.
Yeah, once again we are under the gun for remnants passing nearby. We certainly do not need any additional flooding problems here, but it's looking like we may well be dealing with Ida on Tuesday/Wednesday in the Smoky Mountains.

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:18 am
by Scott747
cperk wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:44 am
Scott747 wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 9:37 am
Scott747 wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 11:09 pm While the low level recon data helps some it won't be till the G-IV flight early in the morning that is usually a difference maker. As long as that flight isn't delayed and on schedule, it will be ingested into the 12z model runs.
Thanks Scott.
NCEP used to update/confirm if any special products (balloon data, G-IV data etc.) were being assimilated into the models when special events were ongoing (in this case Ida.)

https://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/status/messages/

Would look something like this -

The 00Z NAM started on time with 13 Alaskan...26 Canadian...
70 CONUS...12 Mexican...6 Caribbean...and 8 Pacific stations
available for ingest.

However they don't seem to be doing it anymore so it's hard to confirm. If there are major issues with any model input that may affect the forecast they have mentioned it in the storm discos in the past.

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:26 am
by tireman4
European Ensembles 06Z

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:32 am
by tireman4
Houston NWS 10 Am Update

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:55 am
by Cromagnum
Dang. It looks like it's expected to hit major status quite a bit earlier than previously.

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:58 am
by Pas_Bon
Cromagnum wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 10:55 am Dang. It looks like it's expected to hit major status quite a bit earlier than previously.
Hope she gets too big for her britches early on and starts weakening at the cont. shelf.....

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:06 am
by srainhoutx
So it appears the fiber lines into NOAA in Boulder have been cut. Not sure when repairs are going to be complete, but it does seem to be impacting data assimilation throughout NOAA.

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:31 am
by cperk
srainhoutx wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:06 am So it appears the fiber lines into NOAA in Boulder have been cut. Not sure when repairs are going to be complete, but it does seem to be impacting data assimilation throughout NOAA.
Wow talk about bad timing.

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:33 am
by sambucol
In light of the communications problems and data assimilation problems, is there a possibility the storm track could trend west toward Texas? I'm guessing the latest data from recon has not been able to be transferred in order for models to reflect that data. Thank you.

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:51 am
by Kingwood36
sambucol wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:33 am In light of the communications problems and data assimilation problems, is there a possibility the storm track could trend west toward Texas? I'm guessing the latest data from recon has not been able to be transferred in order for models to reflect that data. Thank you.
Not at this point..it's going to Louisiana

Re: August 2021: Tracking TS Ida/Northern Gulf Coast Threat

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2021 11:54 am
by jasons2k
At this time I see no reason to adjust my thinking. God I hope I’m wrong this time though.