October 2020

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I hope there is clear skies.
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Pas_Bon wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:06 am What a shock.....ugh......forecast has pulled away from those really cool temps this weekend and next week. It’s starting to feel like we will never get cold again. Lol
Not shocked at all...totally expected. It will be doing this all winter. You can blame:

1. La Nina
2. 2020
3. Nancy Pelosi
4. All of the above.
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snowman65 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:16 am
Pas_Bon wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:06 am What a shock.....ugh......forecast has pulled away from those really cool temps this weekend and next week. It’s starting to feel like we will never get cold again. Lol
Not shocked at all...totally expected. It will be doing this all winter. You can blame:

1. La Nina
2. 2020
3. Nancy Pelosi
4. All of the above.
NOAA has given up the ghost.

The biggest change I've noticed (due to cc) over the past 30 years in Texas are warmer Falls, often more humid. Summers are about the same. Severe Season in the Spring is a tad earlier. Winters slightly more variable. Fall is the big difference.
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DoctorMu wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:30 am
snowman65 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:16 am
Pas_Bon wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:06 am What a shock.....ugh......forecast has pulled away from those really cool temps this weekend and next week. It’s starting to feel like we will never get cold again. Lol
Not shocked at all...totally expected. It will be doing this all winter. You can blame:

1. La Nina
2. 2020
3. Nancy Pelosi
4. All of the above.
NOAA has given up the ghost.

The biggest change I've noticed (due to cc) over the past 30 years in Texas are warmer Falls, often more humid. Summers are about the same. Severe Season in the Spring is a tad earlier. Winters slightly more variable. Fall is the big difference.
A lot more capping in the spring, too. It’s almost like our Climate is becoming like India’s.
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jasons2k wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:11 pm
DoctorMu wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:30 am
snowman65 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:16 am

Not shocked at all...totally expected. It will be doing this all winter. You can blame:

1. La Nina
2. 2020
3. Nancy Pelosi
4. All of the above.
NOAA has given up the ghost.

The biggest change I've noticed (due to cc) over the past 30 years in Texas are warmer Falls, often more humid. Summers are about the same. Severe Season in the Spring is a tad earlier. Winters slightly more variable. Fall is the big difference.
A lot more capping in the spring, too. It’s almost like our Climate is becoming like India’s.

Definitely down toward Houston. Capping is common in the spring, but there seems to be more of it with the feast or famine patterns.

Texas weather and climate have historically been incredibly variable. Just moreso. Also, while the number of TCs on average per year is similar to 50 years ago with significant variation from year to year, the frequency of Cat 4s and above has been increasing over time.
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jasons2k wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:11 pm
DoctorMu wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:30 am
snowman65 wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:16 am

Not shocked at all...totally expected. It will be doing this all winter. You can blame:

1. La Nina
2. 2020
3. Nancy Pelosi
4. All of the above.
NOAA has given up the ghost.

The biggest change I've noticed (due to cc) over the past 30 years in Texas are warmer Falls, often more humid. Summers are about the same. Severe Season in the Spring is a tad earlier. Winters slightly more variable. Fall is the big difference.
A lot more capping in the spring, too. It’s almost like our Climate is becoming like India’s.
Houston is at the same latitude as India. Delhi is at the same latitude as Houston. India have the Himalayas and Karakoram to the north, which Texas has no high mountain range.
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What a change a day makes! 60-deg. F outside with a BRISK north wind. Typidal southeast Texas north wind, one that cuts right through you. We recorded 1/4" of rain since midnight.
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Typical Southeast Texas fall weather. Nothing has changed over the past 30 years and no season is the same from year to year.

59 degrees near Laken Conroe and a serious cool northeast wind...I like it!
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2.25" in the rain gauge overnight - where did THAT come from? Was expecting about an inch.

Kuykendahl at FM2920.
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redneckweather wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:57 am Nothing has changed over the past 30 years and no season is the same from year to year.
I don't want to turn this thread into a debate over CC but a lot has changed over the last 30 years. There's not only a lot of anecdotal evidence, but the actual data and science proves a lot has changed.

For as "mild" as this summer seemed to a lot of us, the streak of overnight record warm minimums in Galveston was unprecedented. I could go on and on and on starting there & working backwards, but that's just one notable example from 2020 right here in SE Texas.

On another note - I was not expecting this much rain, or for it to still be 56 degrees at 10:30 this morning. Seems like both the front and the dynamics over-performed. I'll gladly take the rain - we needed it. Maybe the leaves will be hydrated enough now to turn first instead of dropping straight off.
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Speaking of changes, can anyone remember the last time we had an EPAC storm's remnants get caught-up in an approaching front over Texas and just dump? When I moved here in 2005, seems like clockwork, every October such an email came from Jeff Lindner warning us to look out for heavy rains. It was like the fall season wasn't complete without at least one of those.

Thinking back now, I can't tell you the last that happened. Years maybe?
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So after this cool weather disappears tomorrow..when is the next one lol
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cajun wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:27 am 2.25" in the rain gauge overnight - where did THAT come from? Was expecting about an inch.

Kuykendahl at FM2920.
Wow. We definitely didn’t get that much rain down here on the south side. I just got home and looked at the gauge and we got .60” but I wasn’t even expecting to get that so it’s a win for me.
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Houston is at the same latitude as India. Delhi is at the same latitude as Houston. India have the Himalayas and Karakoram to the north, which Texas has no high mountain range.
That's what allows India to be a climate wet dream - they have huge transverse mountain ranges, so they enjoy nice toasty winters without any worry of destructive cold, along with reliable blessed monsoon rains. It can get pretty hot during spring, but the reliability alone is equable.

In contrast, the US has no such tranverse ranges, so is at the mercy of all kinds of weather extremes at one part or another.

There's a reason why India had robust, complex ancient civilizations, while no such empires existed anywhere in America north of the Rio Grande.
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jasons2k wrote: Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:11 pmA lot more capping in the spring, too. It’s almost like our Climate is becoming like India’s.
That would be the effect, more or less - though there'd be a bit more cyclonic influence without a more consistent monsoon type pattern. It would be more like present day southern/southwest Mexico's.
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jasons2k wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:55 am Speaking of changes, can anyone remember the last time we had an EPAC storm's remnants get caught-up in an approaching front over Texas and just dump? When I moved here in 2005, seems like clockwork, every October such an email came from Jeff Lindner warning us to look out for heavy rains. It was like the fall season wasn't complete without at least one of those.

Thinking back now, I can't tell you the last that happened. Years maybe?
In Oct 1994 we had 18 inches of rain in <18 hours. I had to kick down the fence to let water out of the backward.
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Kingwood36 wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 4:03 pm So after this cool weather disappears tomorrow..when is the next one lol
Yesterday was a perfect Chamber of Commerce day. The humidity is rushing back today under hazy skies. Gamma really screwed up the upper NW flow we had going. More Big Suck this week with highs near 90°F and DP around 70°F.
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It can't even stay cool for 24 hours
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this will just be another "winter without winter"
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GFS is buying into a very strong cold front in 8-10 days that last more than 24 hours. We'll see about that.

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