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Clearing out across the area now, one last little precip band left.
Time to dry out and cool down!
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Interesting to see HGX mentioning a chance that some areas could drop to near 32 degrees Saturday morning. It should be a beuatiful day, although breeezy. 8-)
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kayci wrote:Ok, I don't care WHAT the weather does down hear by the coast this weekend because I'm headed to Texas Motor Speedway for the race @ DFW area, so it better NOT rain up there this weekend.
Beautiful weather for NASCAR this weekend, kayci. You going the Nationwide or Sprint car race, or both? Clear both days. Upper 30s for Saturday's low, upper 60s for the high. Low 40s on Sunday with a high in the low 70s. Wave to me, I'll be watching!
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Some folks to our North may well see freezing temps tonight. Don't forget to change those clocks and smoke detector batteries Saturday night.
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I just received a text alert that my County (Liberty) is under a freeze warning , specifically northern Liberty County.
Guess it's time to turn on the heater. :-)
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I was wondering why HGX hadn't issued any freeze warnings for at least the bordering counties
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Forecatser 39 has a good discussion...maybe some frost in N Harris County...we'll see as Hooks isn't falling that much...

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
943 PM CDT FRI NOV 5 2010

.UPDATE...
EVENING FORECAST UPDATE. UPDATED FORECAST FOR FREEZE WARNING.

&&

.DISCUSSION...
AT 02Z...SEVERAL AREAS HAVE SEEN TEMPERATURES FALL INTO THE 40S
WITH CALM WINDS AND CLEAR SKIES. WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING OVER
TX TONIGHT...RADIATIONAL COOLING WILL BE MAXIMIZED OVER THE AREA.
SFC DEWPOINT TEMPS ARE IN THE 20S/LOW 30S ESPECIALLY NORTH OF THE
HOUSTON AREA. THESE CONDITIONS WILL SUPPORT THE POSSIBILITY OF
TEMPERATURES FALLING TO FREEZING OR SLIGHTLY BELOW FOR SATURDAY
MORNING. DECIDED TO UPDATE MIN TEMPS TO REFLECT THIS POTENTIAL
AND ISSUED A FREEZE WARNING. FREEZING TEMPERATURES MAY ONLY BE
EXPECTED FOR AN HOUR OR TWO FOR MUCH OF THE AREA. A FEW OUT LYING
AREAS SUCH AS CONROE AND CLEVELAND MAY DROP CLOSER TO 30F AND
BELOW FREEZING FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS.
TEMPERATURES WILL REBOUND
QUICKLY AS THE SUN RISES SAT MORNING AND WILL END THE FREEZE
WARNING AT 14Z OR 9AM. FORECAST PRODUCTS AND FREEZE WARNING HAVE
BEEN ISSUED. THE REST OF THE FORECAST LOOKS ON TRACK.

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Good Morning. Some Southeast Texas residents have frost on their rooves this morning.
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Definitely a chilly morning, but many areas did not hit freezing in and around the Houston Metro. I still think it was prudent to issue the Freeze Warning as many of the 'out in the country' areas did fall to freezing or below. Bush came in at 40, Hobby 41, College Station 36, Sugar Land 35, Huntsville 33, Conroe 32, Lufkin 32, and a few areas of 29 and 30 up in Leon and Robertson Counties.
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Perfect weather for starwatching. 8-)
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Candy Cane wrote:Definitely a chilly morning, but many areas did not hit freezing in and around the Houston Metro. I still think it was prudent to issue the Freeze Warning as many of the 'out in the country' areas did fall to freezing or below.
It wasn't supposed to drop to freezing in Houston. Except for the runway at IAH, everyone dropped into the 30s.

I'd love someone at the NWS tell me with a straight face how it is possible that southern locations like Sugar Land and Palacios were able to drop into the 30s, a location just to the west of IAH was able to drop to 34, with IAH only able to drop to 40, which was only 1 degree cooler than Hobby Airport on the south side of town. Used to, IAH would be 3 or 4 degrees cooler than Hobby on the south side, but that number has now been reduced to maybe a degree or two. Sometimes Hobby will even have a cooler low than IAH, as was observed earlier in the week. I guess it depends on how many planes are taking off and landing at the airport to determine how cool we get at night. A great way to keep official climate information!

I would be willing to say that in the next 10 years IAH will probably average a warmer low than Hobby Airport, if the current UHI increase at IAH continues... IAH now only averages about a degree cooler, and there used to be a much bigger gap. Actually, if you look back, Hooks and IAH used to compare to each other. Hooks Airport just to the west can now be 6 to 8 degrees cooler than IAH, which is just ridiculous.

I guess nobody at the NWS cares about keeping accurate climate info. All of the old data and records we have of past Houston weather are basically going to waste...

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A bit of a disagreement via guidance regarding our next system...
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srainhoutx wrote:A bit of a disagreement via guidance regarding our next system...
0z GFS Dallas/ TX OK snowstorm 228

just sayin' :P
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According to the 12Z GFS, things could get a bit interesting across TX around the 18th. An active pattern in GFS world certainly is not out of the question. Those looking for warm temps, may need to head further south. ;)
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srainhoutx wrote:According to the 12Z GFS, things could get a bit interesting across TX around the 18th. An active pattern in GFS world certainly is not out of the question. Those looking for warm temps, may need to head further south. ;)
You mean the 16th, right?

Models are keying in around the 15th - 17th timeframe for some type of storm to affect the TX and OK areas.
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Mr. T wrote:
srainhoutx wrote:According to the 12Z GFS, things could get a bit interesting across TX around the 18th. An active pattern in GFS world certainly is not out of the question. Those looking for warm temps, may need to head further south. ;)
You mean the 16th, right?

Models are keying in around the 15th - 17th timeframe for some type of storm to affect the TX and OK areas.

I see what you are looking at around the 16th. I also noticed a lot of coastal low development beyond that period as well.
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srainhoutx wrote:
I see what you are looking at around the 16th. I also noticed a lot of coastal low development beyond that period as well.
I guess I was talking about the 15th or 16th because the GFS and to some extent the Euro have been hinting at a large storm system affecting the state around that timeframe for several days now. The ensembles have been all over a big pattern change by the 15th (cold and stormy look). That coastal low beyond the 16th is something new...

The pattern being depicted is not very La Nina looking at all, especially with how strong the ENSO event is right now. Looks like we are catching a lucky break for a bit...
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Yeah, I've been a bit surprised how 'Nino' the pattern looks. It will be interesting to see just how well the GFS handles the pattern since the upgrade, early this summer. IF the trends continue, Thanksgiving around TX/OK could be a real treat.
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srainhoutx wrote:Yeah, I've been a bit surprised how 'Nino' the pattern looks. It will be interesting to see just how well the GFS handles the pattern since the upgrade, early this summer. IF the trends continue, Thanksgiving around TX/OK could be a real treat.
The upcoming pattern definitely looks like an El Nino November for us, fo sho...
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Yum! Snow Turkey..

Not typical La Nina at all. North Texas and Oklahoma looks interesting. I'm anxious to see how the rest of Texas will look during this period.

Bring on the cold. Winter treats would be nice too. Quick.. Somebody call AD and get him to fire off Dan's old winter weather alien weapon. Someone will also have to lock wxman away. You know he has his own summer weather ray gun..:)



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