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MontgomeryCoWx wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:13 pm Front is overperforming.

Was supposed to be -31. Cut bank at -36. Will probably top -40. Forecast was -35.
I hope you enjoy your trip. I saw it was -47 in Edmonton - and we still have the night to go. Some day I do want to go up there and experience that, I do, just not IMBY. Actually, I'd like to go to Finland and Norway and experience the Northern Lights and the saunas too.

It's already down to 36 here. Everything is covered for now. Sunday, we put everything in buckets and into the garage, and wrap the mule palms with lights and freeze wraps just in case.
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If I could give a recommendation, I’d offer up Yellowknife, CA. Go camp with the Inuit village and go dog sledding in the Arctic Circle.

If you’re a little bit survivalist like me, stay for a couple weeks in the dead of Winter.
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Fairly decent signal from the GEFS and GEPS guidance on another storm system to potentially watch in the 18-21st time frame, another arctic front moving in, so this system may not be the only thing of interest
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jasons2k wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:34 pm
MontgomeryCoWx wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:13 pm Front is overperforming.

Was supposed to be -31. Cut bank at -36. Will probably top -40. Forecast was -35.
I hope you enjoy your trip. I saw it was -47 in Edmonton - and we still have the night to go. Some day I do want to go up there and experience that, I do, just not IMBY. Actually, I'd like to go to Finland and Norway and experience the Northern Lights and the saunas too.

It's already down to 36 here. Everything is covered for now. Sunday, we put everything in buckets and into the garage, and wrap the mule palms with lights and freeze wraps just in case.
To be clear, I’d never want negative teens in our backyard much less -40s. The soil and infrastructure wouldn’t handle it well at all .
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MontgomeryCoWx wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:54 pm
jasons2k wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:34 pm
MontgomeryCoWx wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:13 pm Front is overperforming.

Was supposed to be -31. Cut bank at -36. Will probably top -40. Forecast was -35.
I hope you enjoy your trip. I saw it was -47 in Edmonton - and we still have the night to go. Some day I do want to go up there and experience that, I do, just not IMBY. Actually, I'd like to go to Finland and Norway and experience the Northern Lights and the saunas too.

It's already down to 36 here. Everything is covered for now. Sunday, we put everything in buckets and into the garage, and wrap the mule palms with lights and freeze wraps just in case.
To be clear, I’d never want negative teens in our backyard much less -40s. The soil and infrastructure wouldn’t handle it well at all .
Yeah, won’t happen. But if it could, like one of those cheezy movies about 15 years ago, it would be a total disaster.

When I was in college I was hoping to win a contest to see Metallica in Tuktoyaktuk. The commercials on MTV were pretty cool. I didn’t win though - haha.
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Down to 35.0 now.
Several surrounding stations at 33. A couple at 31 already too. Definitely colder than forecast.
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1am and Beaumont already below forecasted temp. Honestly, im expecting 2-4 degrees colder than what's forecasted for Monday and Tuesday. Always seems to be that way with these cold snaps.
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33 now. Most of the neighborhood is reporting 33 but lots of 31 and even 30 temps in the surrounding areas.
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6am and its 29 in Beaumont. Forecasted was a low of 33 by the NWS. Might even tap 28 before sun rises. Have a feeling it will be colder monday/tuesday.
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Nice and chilly this morning in Humble. Warm up with radational heating into the 60s today.
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My forecast has it colder right now than it's going to be on Sunday or Monday mornings. I just don't see that happening.
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Cromagnum wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:40 am My forecast has it colder right now than it's going to be on Sunday or Monday mornings. I just don't see that happening.
Remember, the forecast will be ever-changing from today into the end of the event. My forecast has changed three times in the part 24 hours. Expect changes
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Today’s forecast low: 32
Actual low: 30.5
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And I as stated, the forecast is ever changing, for me it has changed again. Just be weather aware during this event
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It may be time to start paying attention again to our potential storm on Monday.The 12Z suite of the 3 NAM models (3k NAM, WRF,WRF 2) all show frozen precip all the way down to the I-59 corridor by early Monday morning. HGX also has northern portions of Harris County now at a 40% chance of freezing rain on Monday.
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Yep pretty much in line with what KHOU was saying this morning. Last thing we need is ice accumulation on our power grid.
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Everybody's saying the coastal counties don't have anything to worry about
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HGX getting on board also. They mention Winter weather advisories are likely,and freezing rain is also possible south of I-10.
Key Messages:

▶ Strong Arctic cold front pushes through late Saturday night/early
Sunday morning.
▶ Prolonged periods of subfreezing temperatures are expected from
Sunday night through late Wednesday morning for northern areas.
▶ Widespread hard freeze (≤ 24°F) expected on Monday night and
Tuesday night. Hard freeze also expected across parts of the Brazos
Valley/Piney Woods on Sunday night.
▶ Freezing rain/drizzle with some sleet mixed in possible north of I-
10 on Sunday night/Monday. A Winter Weather Advisory is likely in
these areas.
In addition to the colder temperatures Sunday night into Monday,
there is the potential for freezing rain for portions of SE Texas.
While it is still too early to get settled in on the approximate
location of the freezing line, it is pretty reasonable to say that
interests in the Piney Woods and Brazos Valley may see minor impacts
from freezing rain. H5 level shows some energy associated with an
embedded shortwave working its way through the area during this time
(which will provide some lift) in addition to this energy, there is
a strong amount of isentropic ascent at the 295K level (a common
occurrence during the cold season). Seeing this, along with the
amount of moisture available in the lower levels, and the fact that
is occurring during this period of subfreezing temperatures provides
a little more confidence in keeping freezing rain in the forecast.
When observing soundings and comparing temperatures/RH/DP in a time
height, thinking that the primary mode of precipitation will be
freezing rain with the potential for sleet and a few flurries to mix
in. A lot of factors come into play when it comes to predicting the
accumulation amounts, and in this case, agreeing with WPC that
potential ice accumulations not be much more than a glaze. Firstly,
up to this point we have been pretty warm and ground temperatures
have responded to that. By the time ground temperatures respond to
the subfreezing temperatures, the precipitation chances should be
waning off. Secondly, winds will be a bit breezy during the
predicted time of precipitation, so there is a good chance that a
lot of it will evaporate. That being said, current thoughts are that
there would be patchy icy spots and a glaze on bridges, overpasses,
and other elevated surfaces. We could see freezing rain reach the
Houston metro and some locations south of I-10 and west of I-45;
however, not expecting accumulations for these locations at this
time.


To go along with the previous forecast, and with what was mentioned
by the previous forecaster, a Winter Weather Advisory may be needed
for counties north of I-10. Interests in the Brazos Valley and Piney
Woods should use caution while driving Sunday Night/Monday
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davidiowx wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 6:38 pm
Cpv17 wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:40 pm
brazoriatx wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 5:26 pm If we want winter weather we gotta move away from this place. It's that cut and dry, it just doesn't happen here for us and when it does it takes a miracle lol
It’s not the same when you move because if you live in an area where you expect snow, it’s just not the same as when you live in an area that doesn’t expect it.
Exactly. I grew up as a kid down here but spent a few years in Chicago during my late teens. The snow up there was fun for an hour or so before it became the biggest nuisance ever. Once the plows come, it’s disgusting and just a mess. Can’t do anything outside cause it’s all wet and sloppy until it dries out.
We lived outside Chicago in Downers Grove, so the snow didn't get as grey to black after the plows and vehicles moved through. We had an empty lot next door and a park down the street. We were lucky as they became a winter wonderland.
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MontgomeryCoWx wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:13 pm Front is overperforming.

Was supposed to be -31. Cut bank at -36. Will probably top -40. Forecast was -35.
I expect the same. The recent model runs have been drier, but I expect some freezing rain and sleet in CLL.

Man, the games in KC and Buffalo are going to be epic. This morning in Iowa was ice fog city.
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