February 1-5, 2011 Arctic Blast/Winter Storm Discussion

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CMC trying to bring down the mother load, too...

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You would think so with a run that extreme, huh?! :lol:

I'm filing this Euro run next to the one from a few weeks ago which showed a 1070mb high in western Canada.
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Is it looking like we will still have moisture around once the cold air is in place on the lastest euro run?
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Rich wrote:Is it looking like we will still have moisture around once the cold air is in place on the lastest euro run?

The latest Euro backs off on the moisture but is much colder. The Euro shows areas around here and to the coast getting down to the lower 20's.
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Thanks for the explanations guys! :)
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im getting the feeling that this is just going to be another normal cold front for us here in Houston it seems like each time our chances are getting smaller and smaller for any wintry mix. please correct me if im wrong though
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Mr. Weather wrote:im getting the feeling that this is just going to be another normal cold front for us here in Houston it seems like each time our chances are getting smaller and smaller for any wintry mix. please correct me if im wrong though

Again, to quote Wxman57, patience is the key here. We are still WAY to out for anything concrete. These models will flip flop many times before settling in.
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Portastorm wrote:You would think so with a run that extreme, huh?! :lol:

I'm filing this Euro run next to the one from a few weeks ago which showed a 1070mb high in western Canada.
Other models showed the same thing

They were right about the extended cold spell we saw, just not the extreme part of it
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Ed Mahmoud wrote:
Mr. Weather wrote:im getting the feeling that this is just going to be another normal cold front for us here in Houston it seems like each time our chances are getting smaller and smaller for any wintry mix. please correct me if im wrong though

My gut, probably, but one has to look at the glass half full, as it is styill several weeks to the usual start of severe weather season.

I do think (Portastorm can check) we had a severe storm in February 1990 in Austin, but normally, that is a ways off, the Super Bowl is in 2 weeks, and you have to keep interested in something.
Right you are, Ed! February 1, 1990 ... a severe thunderstorm in Travis County with a reported 61 mph wind gust.
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Andrew, Wxma, mr. T, srain anyone give me an idea of temps next week I don't care bout precip. I need to make a decision on buying a better pressure washer for the snow machine but I have to justify with the boss (wife) if we might get cold enough. Really need it to wash my house and motorhome but hey sounds better if I tell her im going to make snow for the kids
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Temps to our north seem to have moderated quite a bit.
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Today's CPC

PROGNOSTIC DISCUSSION FOR 6 TO 10 AND 8 TO 14 DAY OUTLOOKS
NWS CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS, MD
300 PM EST MON JANUARY 24 2011

6-10 DAY OUTLOOK FOR JAN 30 - FEB 03, 2011

RECENT ENSEMBLE MEAN FORECASTS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE EXPECTED 500-HPA
HEIGHT PATTERN FOR THE 6-10 DAY PERIOD OVER NORTH AMERICA. AN AMPLIFIED FLOW
PATTERN IS ANTICIPATED WITH A DEEP TROUGH EXPECTED NORTHEAST OF HUDSON BAY AND
A STRONG RIDGE OVER EASTERN ALASKA. THE CONUS IS EXPECTED TO BE DOMINATED BY
CYCLONIC FLOW AROUND THE TROUGH FORECAST NORTHEAST OF HUDSON BAY ALTHOUGH
RIDGING IS ANTICIPATED ALONG THE U.S. WEST COAST. THE LATEST OPERATIONAL RUNS
OF THE GFS AND ECMWF ARE IN GENERAL AGREEMENT WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE ENSEMBLE
MEANS ALTHOUGH THE OPERATIONAL RUNS OF THE GFS INDICATE TROUGH ENERGY
UNDERCUTTING THE RIDGE FORECAST OVER THE WESTERN CONUS.

THE ENSEMBLE SPAGHETTI DIAGRAMS INDICATE LOW SPREAD ACROSS MOST OF THE CONUS
AND MODERATE TO LARGE SPREAD OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC. THE AO INDEX WHICH
RECENTLY HAS BEEN NEGATIVE IS FORECAST TO BECOME POSITIVE BY DAY 7 AND REMAIN
WEAKLY POSITIVE OR NEUTRAL THROUGH DAY 14.
THE PNA INDEX WHICH RECENTLY HAS
BEEN POSITIVE IS FORECAST TO REMAIN POSITIVE THROUGH DAY 14. TODAYS BLEND CHART
INDICATES NEAR TO BELOW NORMAL HEIGHTS OVER THE EASTERN TWO-THIRDS OF THE CONUS,
PARTS OF THE SOUTHWEST, AND THE ALEUTIANS, AND NEAR TO ABOVE NORMAL HEIGHTS
OVER THE REMAINDER OF THE CONUS AND ALASKA.

THE AREA OF BELOW NORMAL HEIGHTS LEADS TO A FORECAST OF ENHANCED PROBABILITIES
FOR BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES FOR MOST OF THE EASTERN TWO-THIRDS OF THE CONUS.

THE EXPECTATION OF ANOMALOUS SOUTHERLY FLOWS LEADS TO A FORECAST OF ENHANCED
PROBABILITIES FOR ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES FOR PARTS OF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST
AND ALL OF ALASKA.

AN ACTIVE SOUTHERN JET STREAM LEADS TO A FORECAST OF ENHANCED PROBABILITIES FOR
ABOVE MEDIAN PRECIPITATION FOR PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS, THE GULF COAST,
AND SOUTHEAST.
ANOMALOUS SOUTHERLY FLOWS LEADS TO A FORECAST OF ENHANCED
PROBABILITIES FOR ABOVE MEDIAN PRECIPITATION FOR WESTERN ALASKA AND THE
ALEUTIANS. THE REST OF THE CONUS AND ALASKA ARE FORECAST TO HAVE ENHANCED
PROBABILITIES FOR NEAR TO BELOW MEDIAN PRECIPITATION.

TODAY'S OFFICIAL 500-HPA BLEND CONSISTS OF 5 PERCENT OF TODAY'S OPERATIONAL 6Z GFS CENTERED ON DAY 8...10 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON
DAY 8...15 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 6Z GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 8...10
PERCENT OF TODAY'S GFS SUPERENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 8...5 PERCENT OF
TODAY'S OPERATIONAL 0Z ECMWF CENTERED ON DAY 8...20 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z
EUROPEAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 8...10 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z CANADIAN
ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 8...5 PERCENT OF YESTERDAY'S OPERATIONAL 12Z
ECMWF CENTERED ON DAY 7...15 PERCENT OF YESTERDAY'S 12Z EUROPEAN ENSEMBLE MEAN
CENTERED ON DAY 7...AND 5 PERCENT OF YESTERDAY'S 12Z CANADIAN ENSEMBLE MEAN
CENTERED ON DAY 7.

MODEL OF THE DAY: TODAYS 0Z ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEAN

FORECAST CONFIDENCE FOR THE 6-10 DAY PERIOD: ABOVE AVERAGE, 4 ON A SCALE OF 1
TO 5 DUE TO RELATIVELY GOOD MODEL AGREEMENT AND CONSISTENCY.

8-14 DAY OUTLOOK FOR FEB 01 - 07 2011

THE RECENT OPERATIONAL AND ENSEMBLE MEAN SOLUTIONS INDICATE THAT THE WEEK 2
CIRCULATION PATTERN IS EXPECTED TO BE NEARLY IDENTICAL TO THAT EXPECTED FOR THE
6-10 DAY PERIOD. THE ENSEMBLE SPAGHETTI DIAGRAMS INDICATE LOW SPREAD ACROSS THE
CENTRAL AND EASTERN CONUS, AND MODERATE TO LARGE SPREAD OVER THE WESTERN CONUS
AND THE EASTERN PACIFIC.

TODAYS WEEK 2 BLEND CHART IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE 6-10 DAY BLEND CHART. THE
EXPECTED TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION ANOMALIES FOR WEEK 2 ARE ALSO VERY
SIMILAR TO THOSE FORECAST FOR THE 6-10 DAY PERIOD ALTHOUGH SOMEWHAT WETTER
CONDITIONS ARE ANTICIPATED OVER PARTS OF THE NORTHERN PLAINS DURING WEEK 2.

THE OFFICIAL 8-14 DAY HEIGHT PROG CONSISTS OF: 15 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z GFS
ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 11...10 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 6Z GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN
CENTERED ON DAY 11...15 PERCENT OF TODAY'S GFS SUPERENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON
DAY 11...25 PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z EUROPEAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 11...5
PERCENT OF TODAY'S 0Z CANADIAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 11...20 PERCENT OF
YESTERDAY'S 12Z EUROPEAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 10...AND 10 PERCENT OF
YESTERDAY'S 12Z CANADIAN ENSEMBLE MEAN CENTERED ON DAY 10.

FORECAST CONFIDENCE FOR THE 8-14 DAY PERIOD IS: ABOVE AVERAGE, 4 ON A SCALE OF
1 TO 5, DUE TO RELATIVELY GOOD MODEL AGREEMENT AND THE PERSISTENCE OF THE
EXPECTED FLOW PATTERN FROM THE 6-10 DAY PERIOD.


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So what did I miss today? Anything exciting? :mrgreen:
Carla/Alicia/Jerry(In The Eye)/Michelle/Charley/Ivan/Dennis/Katrina/Rita/Wilma/Humberto/Ike/Harvey

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srainhoutx wrote:So what did I miss today? Anything exciting? :mrgreen:
Euro= awesome with no moisture, Canadian= awesome, Gfs= bad

The 18z GFS is getting back on board....kinda

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So, I've been reading. . . have the chances diminished of a really cold arctic blast next week? I got that impression from some of the posts.
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I looked at this link at Twister Data.
http://www.twisterdata.com/index.php?pr ... hive=false

No snow for us. The GFS has a tendency to change a lot around the 6 to 10 day mark.
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cristina99 wrote:So, I've been reading. . . have the chances diminished of a really cold arctic blast next week? I got that impression from some of the posts.

I for one would follow the wise words of wxman57...

wxman57 wrote:

It'll be another 5-6 days before we have much confidence in next week's weather. This is the time period prior to an event that the models tend to struggle, so I wouldn't put too much stock in any model runs for the next 3-5 days. And don't expect the local NWS office to mention any winter precip next week. They'll only do so when they're confident that such precip is more likely than not, and that's not going to happen this week.
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Man, it sure has gotten quiet in here.
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biggerbyte wrote:Man, it sure has gotten quiet in here.
Waiting on 00z runs. Can't do much else.
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